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Old 01-05-2011, 09:00 PM
 
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In case you were too busy to notice, a lot of democrates went home today. As I hear it they are all looking for new jobs. Nancy was funny for the first time in her life, that pay as you go thing had me in tears.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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It was Attorney General Janet Reno who asked Ken Starr to investigate Clinton. The case wasn't about sex with an intern, it was about suborning perjury in the sexual harassment suit brought against Clinton by Paula Jones.

While I have never believed the Iraq invasion and war were necessary, I do find the oft juxtaposition of Clinton's impeachment and Bush's foreign policy to be, well, stupid. Especially considering that Clinton was impeached by Democrats and Republicans and the Iraq War was authorized by Democrats and Republicans.
I can't add anything much to this post, except to complain that there were never enough Dems to stand against Clinton's malfeasance or enough Republicans to stand against Bush's warmongering. If only.
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Austin
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This is what scares me about a lot of you conservative voters because a lot of you are this ignorant and uninformed. Rallies like this are what unearth what happens behind closed doors in America.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:02 AM
 
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Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about Monica Lewinsky polishing his knob in the Oval Office when it had no bearing on the economy, nor was it nobody's business. That man balanced the federal budget, but that was irrelevent. George W. Bush took the equivalent of two years vacation the entire eight years he was in office. He lied about sending other people's children to die so Cheney could build an empire in the Middle East. Bush himself admitted on Meet The Press he couldn't find the link to Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Bush never found Osama Bin Laden like he promised, and he authorized torture at Guantanamo.

Barack Obama is a horrible President because he didn't pull out his magic wand and work up miracles overnight after he took office. It's all his fault deficit spending has gone wild, and he couldn't fix it even when Congress has given him hell since he's been in office. The national debt was irrelevant during the Bush Administration, yet now everyone us upset over deficit spending. Nevermind the fact that Obama ended the Iraq War Bush created, and he's now putting deadlines on our withdrawal from Afghanistan because he understands the price of these wars are ones neither we nor our children can afford. Forget about health care becoming more affordable for working class and poor people or the overturning of DADT. Disregard the 9/11 Health Benefits Bill, the START program, and the Food Safety Bill while we're at it.

It's considered socialism whenever we help the poor and middle class because they're there by choice. Spending money to build better schools, levees, dams, locks, roads, and bridges isn't cost-effective. Neither is extending unemployment because the blame lies on those out there unable to find jobs due to their lack of ambition rather than the ones who outsourced jobs overseas. Throwing out liferings for the rich is good for business because giving away $700 billion to Bank of America, AIG, and Citibank was supposed to remove us from the recession which it didn't. Furthermore, spending $1 billion on brand new sports complexes while the owners gets 10-percent profits is good for the community, but assisting those on welfare isn't worth our tax dollars. Am I reading this right?

When one views a situation from the far left, every other perspective is to your right.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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George W. Bush took the equivalent of two years vacation the entire eight years he was in office.


Actually, Obama has golfed twice as much in two years as Bush did in eight.

Obama has also taken more vacations, and his vacations have cost the taxpayers WAY more (Bush usually went back to Crawford, TX).

Insignificant stuff, but some asked for incorrect points.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about Monica Lewinsky polishing his knob in the Oval Office when it had no bearing on the economy, nor was it nobody's business. That man balanced the federal budget, but that was irrelevent. George W. Bush took the equivalent of two years vacation the entire eight years he was in office. He lied about sending other people's children to die so Cheney could build an empire in the Middle East. Bush himself admitted on Meet The Press he couldn't find the link to Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Bush never found Osama Bin Laden like he promised, and he authorized torture at Guantanamo.

Barack Obama is a horrible President because he didn't pull out his magic wand and work up miracles overnight after he took office. It's all his fault deficit spending has gone wild, and he couldn't fix it even when Congress has given him hell since he's been in office. The national debt was irrelevant during the Bush Administration, yet now everyone us upset over deficit spending. Nevermind the fact that Obama ended the Iraq War Bush created, and he's now putting deadlines on our withdrawal from Afghanistan because he understands the price of these wars are ones neither we nor our children can afford. Forget about health care becoming more affordable for working class and poor people or the overturning of DADT. Disregard the 9/11 Health Benefits Bill, the START program, and the Food Safety Bill while we're at it.

It's considered socialism whenever we help the poor and middle class because they're there by choice. Spending money to build better schools, levees, dams, locks, roads, and bridges isn't cost-effective. Neither is extending unemployment because the blame lies on those out there unable to find jobs due to their lack of ambition rather than the ones who outsourced jobs overseas. Throwing out liferings for the rich is good for business because giving away $700 billion to Bank of America, AIG, and Citibank was supposed to remove us from the recession which it didn't. Furthermore, spending $1 billion on brand new sports complexes while the owners gets 10-percent profits is good for the community, but assisting those on welfare isn't worth our tax dollars. Am I reading this right?
Clinton was impeached for perjury. Bush had Congress and the UN backing him.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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Barack Obama is a horrible President because he didn't pull out his magic wand and work up miracles overnight after he took office. It's all his fault deficit spending has gone wild, and he couldn't fix it even when Congress has given him hell since he's been in office.


It was Obama that as a candidate PROMISED unemployment would not go over 9% and claimed he knew how to fix everything. I guess you didn't believe him or else you'd be pissed too.

It IS his fault spending has gone wild....he's been in charge of it and the buck stops at his desk. Bush left us with a deficit in the billions, but Obama has quadrupled that.

The funniest thing you said is about how a completely Democratically controlled Congress for the past two years has given him problems!!!!
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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This is what scares me about a lot of you conservative voters because a lot of you are this ignorant and uninformed. Rallies like this are what unearth what happens behind closed doors in America.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0
Those people in that video are appalling. They are what's wrong with the U.S. Well, that and greedy corporations, lobbyists, corrupt govt offices, etc. Damn.
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:05 AM
 
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I always though Bill Clinton was impeached because of Chinagate????? Guesss Im wrong, plz set me straight
Here's the deal .... the hoopla over Lewinski ... hanky panky in the oval office ... all of the he said - she said was a grand distraction. So many things went on during Clinton's 8 years ... it amazes me that this is still the highlight (or low-light) everyone seems to remember ..... stains on a dress. The government spent more money "investigating" Clinton's extracurricular activities than was spent investigating 911, and the question never considered is ... why? That's why ... it was a distraction.

Yet, even today, few know what actually took place during those 8 years ... because we've become a "Jerry Springer" audience ... unconcerned or too unintelligent to recognize important and significant matters .... the mass transfer of technology to China ... Waco ... Oklahoma City Bombing and the anti-American legislation that resulted from that, which was the precursor to 911 and the Patriot Act ... all of those things not even a footnote in the public's mind.

This mass delusion of and by the public is evidenced by the repeated fallacy of a Clinton balanced budget, even though it doesn't take more than a 3rd grade education to understand that the INCREASE in the National debt continued under Clinton, proving that there was NO balanced budget. If there was such a thing, the National Dept wouldn't have increased. It's really as simple as that. And, apparently, even this is not simple enough for "mainstream America".

Sad.
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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This is what scares me about a lot of you conservative voters because a lot of you are this ignorant and uninformed. Rallies like this are what unearth what happens behind closed doors in America.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0
There is a frighteningly large element of pure brain dead Americans, and certainly not isolated to one political persuasion. In fact, one could easily conclude that both the Democrats and Republicans attract pretty equal shares of this level of unintelligence, since each side periodically trades positions of power ... and the seesaw goes back and forth, year after year, term after term, and decade after decade, and generation after generation ... yet nothing ever changes for better.

Ask anyone of them why are you a Democrat or a Republican, and the most intelligent answer they can come up with is my Daddy was one, and his Daddy was one, so that's why I'm one too.

Some of the other answers you might get are less carefully considered
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