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Old 01-10-2011, 05:52 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Congressman Bob Brady (D) is walking on a very fine line with this issue.

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PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – In the wake of the shooting in Arizona, a local congressman is introducing legislation that would expand the law that deals with threats against the President to also cover federal lawmakers.
Local Congressman Wants To Make It A Crime To Threaten Any Federal Lawmaker « CBS Philly – News, Sports, Weather, Traffic and the Best of Philadelphia

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Old 01-10-2011, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Hades
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Whether or not it becomes law, attacking, or planning to attack, any federal lawmaker is really, really high profile and stupid business. I may not agree with all lawmakers, but I think that it's not a bad idea. Clearly, anyone who hatches plans like this either is to far gone mentally to be worried about the death penalty OR kills themselves in the process.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why is he walking a fine line? The illegality of threatening public officials has long been a case of settled law.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Why is he walking a fine line? The illegality of threatening public officials has long been a case of settled law.
Heck, one can get into trouble for threatening a teacher.

Threats aren't taken lightly in any case.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 06:12 PM
 
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Heck, one can get into trouble for threatening a teacher.

Threats aren't taken lightly in any case.
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Why is he walking a fine line? The illegality of threatening public officials has long been a case of settled law.
Then why is there a need for the legislation this Philly Democrat wants to propose? Wouldn't it be a redundancy of existing law?
 
Old 01-10-2011, 06:13 PM
 
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I dont really see why this should not apply to congress people as well. The fact that they go around without security is scary enough. I think that they could use some more protection and this law might help. I think specific threats toward an individual should be taken seriously.

What specifically is your concern with this proposed law?
 
Old 01-10-2011, 06:20 PM
 
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I dont really see why this should not apply to congress people as well. The fact that they go around without security is scary enough. I think that they could use some more protection and this law might help. I think specific threats toward an individual should be taken seriously.

What specifically is your concern with this proposed law?
I do not believe Congress should pass any law that does not apply equally to all US citizens, be they elected representative, federal judges, or average citizens.

The Republic is government by the people. Not government protected by exceptional laws for the governing elite. A law that is good enough for one is good enough for all or not good enough for any. Congress should not be able to create laws around itself as a "protected class", IMO.

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Old 01-10-2011, 06:32 PM
 
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I do not believe Congress should pass any law that does not equally to all US citizens, be they elected representative, federal judges, or average citizens.

The Republic is government by the people. Not government protected by exceptional laws for the governming elite. A law that is good enough for one is good enough for all or not good enough for any. Congress should not be able to create laws around itself as a "protected class", IMO.

Great post.

The gov't already is a protected class in that they don't have to jump through the same hoops citizens do when they don't pay taxes.

A threat on the life of ANY citizen should be investigated.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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I do not believe Congress should pass any law that does not apply equally to all US citizens, be they elected representative, federal judges, or average citizens.

The Republic is government by the people. Not government protected by exceptional laws for the governming elite. A law that is good enough for one is good enough for all or not good enough for any. Congress should not be able to create laws around itself as a "protected class", IMO.
Believe it or not, those were my first thoughts too. I agree with you completely.
 
Old 01-10-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I dont really see why this should not apply to congress people as well. The fact that they go around without security is scary enough. I think that they could use some more protection and this law might help. I think specific threats toward an individual should be taken seriously.

What specifically is your concern with this proposed law?
The article says:

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Congressman Bob Brady, who represents Pennsylvania’s first congressional district, wants to make it illegal to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or inciting violence against any member of congress.
(emphasis mine)

Well what should be perceived as threatening or inciting violence? The rhetoric used by the media and politicians has always involved hyperbole. The house represents the people and if you're afraid of a couple of nutjobs, then perhaps you shouldn't become a public official. I can understand making some common sense security changes, but there is no reason to regulate speech that can be "perceived" as threatening. There's been terrible incidents in the past and there will be more in the future committed by some psychologically unstable nutjob. Passing a law won't stop that.
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