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Old 01-11-2011, 01:17 PM
 
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This is the oldest argument. The same argument could be made for having a Tank in your back yard. I mean it won't shoot by itself.


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Old 01-11-2011, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Some old data,but has it changed much?

Deaths involving firearms, per 100,000 persons, by country (1997)
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin's great north woods
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I have that same outfit.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:27 PM
 
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And people with guns kill with guns.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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Those are some pretty telling statistics. I see no need at all for handguns.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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And people with guns kill with guns.
It's hard to get the big picture when some have such a small screen.

FACTS TO PONDER :

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.

(Calculation) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services



Now think about this:

Guns:

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.

(Yes, that's 80 million..)

(B) The number of accidental gun death per year, all age groups, is 1,500.

(Calculation) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.

Statistics courtesy of FBI



So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.



Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'



FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:58 PM
 
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It's hard to get the big picture when some have such a small screen.

FACTS TO PONDER :

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.

(Calculation) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services



Now think about this:

Guns:

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.

(Yes, that's 80 million..)

(B) The number of accidental gun death per year, all age groups, is 1,500.

(Calculation) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.

Statistics courtesy of FBI



So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.



Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'



FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.
Well the Arizona killer did not kill by "Accident" he intentionally killed. Do you have any statistics comparing the number of doctors who intentionally killed their patients with the number of deaths intentionally caused with a firearm?
No? I did not think so.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Here Jared you can practice shooting Gabby Gifford

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Old 01-11-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Don't be a cry baby!
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Real numbers, we need to have doctor control (Oh, my bad,"Obamacare!")
  • Gun Deaths per year 30,000.
  • accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
  • Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
30,000 Gun Deaths per year! « Blogalwarning

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Old 01-11-2011, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The pro-gun lobby is going to go on the offensive big time over the Gifford thing because it is big. This could be the turning point in the entire sorry history of handgun ownership in America. I have not heard of a gun killing anyone by itself but neither have I ever heard of anyone shooting someone without a gun.

Maybe someone could explain to me why guns are secured on military bases because I understand this is the practice. For many years I was a civilian contractor for a para-military employer and I observed weapons being secured before officers were allowed into the facilities or offices. Hmmmm. A gun is an offensive weapon. It is less capable as defensive armament. Want proof? Recently a lone gunman took out four armed members of the Seattle, WA police force as they completed reports at breakfast.

I get that some members of the U.S. citizenry want the right to keep and bear arms... because it is in the Constitution and some because it makes them feel like it will give them an edge in the constant fight for survival in the rural jungles of the untamed American frontier but it is a debate that should be revisited. Some older legal and social contracts have been revised due to the changing era's since they were composed. The 2nd Amendment has been causing a lot of needless bloodshed and anguish and needs some revision.
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