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One of things I never quite understood about present day USA is acceptance of having kid out of wedlock. Especially, when government show up to provide support for them. The main problem with such kids is probably they won't be raised properly by the parents. The government has to show up to support them with money and public school often struggle with them. A lot of these kids repeat their parents mistakes and get stuck in generational poverty.
What I think should be done about this is government need make sure the parent(s) are actually capable of raising the child. Parents should mature, responsible, and financially stable to actually raise children. If they aren't they should be given up for adoption. There are ton of good couple looking for new born babies to adopt.
One of things I never quite understood about present day USA is acceptance of having kid out of wedlock. Especially, when government show up to provide support for them. The main problem with such kids is probably they won't be raised properly by the parents. The government has to show up to support them with money and public school often struggle with them. A lot of these kids repeat their parents mistakes and get stuck in generational poverty.
What I think should be done about this is government need make sure the parent(s) are actually capable of raising the child. Parents should mature, responsible, and financially stable to actually raise children. If they aren't they should be given up for adoption. There are ton of good couple looking for new born babies to adopt.
At what point should the government force someone to give their kids for adoption?
Most of the problems you described above are independent of out of wedlock births.
More of a problem is the lack of birth control, especially by people who don't have the financial means to support big families. And you can blame the catholic church for a lot of that.
"Father, I have five kids and I only make $8 per hour. What should my wife and I do?"
"Continue to be fruitful and multiply my son."
At what point should the government force someone to give their kids for adoption?
Most of the problems you described above are independent of out of wedlock births.
More of a problem is the lack of birth control, especially by people who don't have the financial means to support big families. And you can blame the catholic church for a lot of that.
"Father, I have five kids and I only make $8 per hour. What should my wife and I do?"
"Continue to be fruitful and multiply my son.
It's the Catholic Churches fault?? More likely welfare rewarding such behavior.
Yes, the church's backwards 12th century values of encouraging the procreation of as many catholics as possible without regards to the costs to society. The church looks at power in numbers. Have as many kids as possible - the government will take care of you, including educating your kids at $8000/kid per year.
One of things I never quite understood about present day USA is acceptance of having kid out of wedlock. Especially, when government show up to provide support for them. The main problem with such kids is probably they won't be raised properly by the parents. The government has to show up to support them with money and public school often struggle with them. A lot of these kids repeat their parents mistakes and get stuck in generational poverty.
What I think should be done about this is government need make sure the parent(s) are actually capable of raising the child. Parents should mature, responsible, and financially stable to actually raise children. If they aren't they should be given up for adoption. There are ton of good couple looking for new born babies to adopt.
This opinion is about as wrong as wrong can be. Maybe you're a troll. I don't know, but.........
I had my daughter when I was 26 and didn't marry her father. We were together for six years. Not to give out my entire life history, but he and I raised our daughter together and he was my best friend. He was a musician who had toured with several big name rock bands, so it's not like he was a conservative man. He did however, love, care for and support our daughter.
I've always worked. Worked my way through college while raising my daughter. I'm a liberal. I wasn't a perfect parent and would like a few do overs with a few things, but my daughter turned out wonderful.
No teen pregnancies. No drug/alcohol problems. No long string of bad boyfriends. No marriages. At 17 she cared for her dad when he was on hospice. She didn't go the traditinal college route, but she's there now. She's worked in the medical field for about four years. She's very intelligent, tall, brown and beautiful. She's also a musician, and a non-mainstreamer like both of her parents. She's an atheist, and ethical and honest to a fault.
I chose to not get married. It's fine for others, but I have no desire to be married. I don't like people living with me, and I have no desire to wash stinky socks and undies. I chose to have my child when I could have had an abortion.
I suggest you not be so judgemental. There are plenty of people who have children without being married and are not on 'government' support. Open your mind a little. The world is can be beautiful.
Yes, the church's backwards 12th century values of encouraging the procreation of as many catholics as possible without regards to the costs to society. The church looks at power in numbers. Have as many kids as possible - the government will take care of you, including educating your kids at $8000/kid per year.
Are you saying Catholics have the highest % of babies out of wedlock?? Or make up the largest % of women and children on welfare roles???
Are you saying Catholics have the highest % of babies out of wedlock?? Or make up the largest % of women and children on welfare roles???
No, because I don't have those statistics. What I am writing is the church's policy on birth control is not beneficial to society and to individual families. The church needs to make a few adjustments (and not just getting away from promoting superstition and supernatural events from the great book of myths, otherwise known as the bible).
No, because I don't have those statistics. What I am writing is the church's policy on birth control is not beneficial to society and to individual families. The church needs to make a few adjustments (and not just getting away from promoting superstition and supernatural events from the great book of myths, otherwise known as the bible).
But if one is NOT CATHOLIC how is it the churches fault that they became pregnant out of wedlock?? You have a bias against the Catholic church which is your right but this is really a stretch!! And since all Christians not just Catholics use the Bible how are just the Catholics blamed for "promoting superstition.........??? Oh Jewish religion follows the Old Testament and they escaped your ire too!!
But if one is NOT CATHOLIC how is it the churches fault that they became pregnant out of wedlock??
I never wrote that. Where did you pick that up?
Also, catholics aren't the only ones promoting superstition, virtually all members of a religion are victims too. They've been brainwashed by their parents to think a certain way.
So, back on topic. What I am implying is out of wedlock births are probably in the noise compared to overbirths to those of limited means - that's where the catholic tie in came from. Marriage is just a legal agreement. It's independent of money, maturity, age, health, and culture. It's even independent of love for each other. You don't have to be married to love someone and care about kids and marriage doesn't guarantee a good upbringing for them. All it does is makes tax filling and some estate planning a little smoother.
Also, catholics aren't the only ones promoting superstition, virtually all members of a religion are victims too. They've been brainwashed by their parents to think a certain way.
So, back on topic. What I am implying is out of wedlock births are probably in the noise compared to overbirths to those of limited means - that's where the catholic tie in came from. Marriage is just a legal agreement. It's independent of money, maturity, age, health, and culture. It's even independent of love for each other. You don't have to be married to love someone and care about kids and marriage doesn't guarantee a good upbringing for them. All it does is makes tax filling and some estate planning a little smoother.
I'm so confused and my head hurts trying to figure your reply out!! Have a good night!!
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More likely welfare rewarding such behavior. 
and my head hurts trying to figure your reply out!! Have a good night!!
