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Old 02-10-2011, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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I don't think you understand Beck. He is not charging and spreading conspiracy. He presents the facts. He challeneges YOU to do your own research to either accept them or reject them. He says YOU connect the dots. If you don't then fine, if you do then that's fine also. He leaves the decision up to you.

I don't see what is "finge" about this approach. It is leaving the decision up to the viewer or the reader of his book(s). I have recently read "Broke" and it is a wealth of information on government spending, deficits, debts, and how the government fools people with the political doubletalk in destroying this country with runaway spending and debt.

But you read the book, and then you will judge it. All of his footnotes are usually primary sources and I put stock in primary sources rather than propaganda that is spwewed by other TV/ media personalities who put forth their versions of events and never support them with primary sources.

For example, Beck will make the charge W Wilson campaigned upon non interventionism in WWI. As soon as he was elected, he broke his promise and involved the US in WWI. He uses the primary source of W WIlson's own campaign words on the campaibgn trail, and we all know he engaged the US in WWI. This is the way he presents his argument. Look it up in this instance, he isn't wrong. Wilson lied to the people about noninterventionism and Beck proves it through primary sources. Look it up for yourself.

Beck is not a Republican, nor is he a Democrat. He call himself an independent.
Does Beck also talk about the change in German strategy between the election and the declaration of war? I've never heard him mention it, maybe others have.

World War One Woodrow Wilson

Wilson and World War I

In the summer of 1914 all Europe was plunged into war. Wilson called upon the United States to be neutral "even in spirit," but few Americans were able to remain impartial. For two years the president made every effort to avoid war. Even after the unarmed British liner Lusitania was sunk by a German submarine with a loss of almost 1,200 lives including 124 Americans, he argued: "There is such a thing as a man being too proud to fight."

In 1916 he was reelected. He defeated the Republican candidate Charles Evans Hughes by an electoral vote of 277 to 254. The campaign slogan "He kept us out of war" probably won him more popular votes than any other factor. After the election Wilson tried to end the war by active mediation. The Germans, however, resumed unrestricted submarine warfare. On April 2, 1917, the president asked Congress for a declaration of war. Before a joint session of the two houses he read the solemn words, "The present German submarine warfare against commerce is a warfare against mankind. It is a war against all nations. . . . We are accepting this challenge. . . . The world must be made safe for democracy." On April 6, Congress declared war.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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lol

"I'm not saying they are working together, just saying they act together!"

I love how he tries to portray small groups with limited leverage like code pink or mediamatters like hovering threats above everyone's heads.

Glenn Beck can pull out all the facts he wants, it's what he does with information that makes no sense.

Beck's show goes like this:

"Today, the market plunged by 1%. I am telling you. Go look this up. Don't take my word for it. Tomorrow? Half of us will be dead and the marxists will be trampling the marble of our institutions. I'M telling you America, buy gold, stockpile food and weapons...'they' are coming! Look what my research team as found. Some professor somewhere is a proponent of communism. Look what he wrote? Look it up! They are coming, America and I hope you are ready!"""

The shows end and the Beck viewers log on their dialup connection from their trailer park and say: "Wow, he was right, markets plunged by 1% and some obscure professor did write this.", all the while, completly ignoring the insane conclusions and nonensical correlations Beck made.

Not everyone is born equal intellectually and Beck is delivering for the lower percentiles of the population and he is doing it very well. He's probably laughing at his own antics when he cuts to commercial.
Just a few minutes ago Beck did play a sound bite of the woman who heads up the Socialist Workers Party (a well known Marxist group) speaking about how her group should assist the Egyptians by taking down the British government because they are murderers and all the rest of that socialist crap). Since you don't watch Beck, at all, let me suggest that you watch the last 15 minutes of the show on any of the three available internet sites available to you this evening. I would suggest the links but am ordered not to do that ever again.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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can anyone actually tell us what beck wants people to "back up with facts?"

if it is that crazy Caliphate stuff, that is a bizarre prediction. If I saw a tomato is going to rule the earth in 20 days, prove me wrong, then all you have to do is wait twenty days. But if I say, a tomato will rule the earth in the future, prove me wrong -- then I can start to build my following!
But prog, and I mean progressive, you don't watch Beck so you really don't have any idea what he really says. Try it some time to learn how wrong the left leaning blogs really are.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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i said he was lying ?
You gave a big OK to these words so, yes you called him a liar.

Sheeple can't handle the truth, they rather go down a cliff following their Master!
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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Comment has been removed by the communist-socialist-progressive-islamic-russian-chinese caliphate
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Look at this poor guy.

WE KNOW THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD BELIEVES IN A CALIPHATE.

It's a fact that can be found anywhere, including the FBI and CIA.

Quit rambing about this.

The topic here is Beck insane predictions with this widely known fact.

Beck used that information to conclude that China will take over Australia and that Russia will take over the Netherlands. That's not crazy talk for you?

Hey did you know that South Sudan will seperate from Sudan? Sure you did.

Now let me generate Glenn Beck's next show. "OMG! EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WILL COLLAPSE UNDER SEPERATIST GOVERNMENT...IT'S COMING"""

Don't you see that Beck will use ANY current event to feed his apocalyptic scenarios?

If the Fidji Islands voted in a socialist govenrment, you could be sure Beck would be predicting a wave of stalinist regimes.
I loved this post more than any up to now. I watch Beck every day and haven't heard any of this in the last year. You never watch him at all but you continue to "quote" him with somebody's words. You are so funny that I can't stand not to watch your parroted words when you get wound out.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Yeah? The Third Reich got their propaganda ideas from the US Progressives. Edward Bernays, so be careful believing them. What Beck is saying is exactly about the dumbing down of America and how the Progressives are leading the pack on that one. They don't want people to be able to think for themslevs because their lies and games would come to an end. He is simply pointing out these facts and saying that the media won't even report on any of it. That is part of the dumbing down of America and the media is helping.
Great try at explaining all that truth to one of THEM. You are wasting your fingertip power but keep trying.

I wish I could introduce threads like this one but why bother when I would bet deleted and banned for days for doing so. Thanks for giving THEM something to squeal about. They are never off topic, THEY think.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Does Beck also talk about the change in German strategy between the election and the declaration of war? I've never heard him mention it, maybe others have.

World War One Woodrow Wilson

Wilson and World War I

In the summer of 1914 all Europe was plunged into war. Wilson called upon the United States to be neutral "even in spirit," but few Americans were able to remain impartial. For two years the president made every effort to avoid war. Even after the unarmed British liner Lusitania was sunk by a German submarine with a loss of almost 1,200 lives including 124 Americans, he argued: "There is such a thing as a man being too proud to fight."

In 1916 he was reelected. He defeated the Republican candidate Charles Evans Hughes by an electoral vote of 277 to 254. The campaign slogan "He kept us out of war" probably won him more popular votes than any other factor. After the election Wilson tried to end the war by active mediation. The Germans, however, resumed unrestricted submarine warfare. On April 2, 1917, the president asked Congress for a declaration of war. Before a joint session of the two houses he read the solemn words, "The present German submarine warfare against commerce is a warfare against mankind. It is a war against all nations. . . . We are accepting this challenge. . . . The world must be made safe for democracy." On April 6, Congress declared war.
Why, yes, Beck talked about that election often last fall. Of course, progs don't want to hear all that because they don't see Wilson as a progressive and Beck says he was one of the worst of the early progressives. Oh yes, Beck did talk about that. I won't go back on the internet sites where you can see all his shows to find it but you are welcome to do so and maybe you could see what Beck has really been saying while you were accepting prog talk as the truth.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:46 PM
 
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To say this thread has degenerated into childish responses is an understatement.

There are so many FACTS being bandied about.......

I am right, everyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong.......

I have the knowledge, everyone who doesn't agree with me doesn't have the FACTS the way I see them so is wrong....

Only I have seen the true FACTS so only I am qualified to talk about it

You have no idea what you're talking about, I, on the other hand am knowledgeable in all fields

My FACTS are better than your FACTS

~SHEESH~

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Old 02-10-2011, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Your cartoon was so funny but it ignored the fact that Beck wasn't around in 1962. Somehow that sounds like what you accuse Beck of doing.
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