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Wisconsin Republicans were not in agreement with Democrat Governors who rewarded state unions for their votes with high pay , benefits and pensions.
The Republicans paid a higher tax while working as they did before . They wrote letters of disagreement , held tea parties , urged like minded thinkers to register to vote .
The hard work paid off , the Republicans are voted in fair and square . Of course the Republicans are going to do what the promised and reverse the union bribes the last government set forward .
If people don't like what the present Governor is doing , they can vote for someone else in four years , that's the American way.
NO ! Not for the state teachers union , they break the law by closing the schools , use the children to benefit their paycheck , surround the Governor's house with his children in it . What a disgrace . Then the President of the United States of America takes the side of the outlaws .
You got it! "Then the President of the United States of America takes the side of the outlaws."
The end of the democratic process by trying to forcefully shut down unions, and their right to collectively bargain, simply because you disapprove of their very existence. That's what he was getting at, and the Senators left the state to essentially tell the R's where they could shove it.
Wrong. The senators have walked out on the job they were elected to do. They need to defend their position and their constituents by voting, not by neglecting their job. It's dereliction of duty, and voters are sick of these silly games, on both sides.
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Originally Posted by mb1547
No--they're standing up for their constituents by essentially telling the R's to go jump in a lake until they're willing to at least be reasonable. If "government" wants to do something really wrong, good people have a responsibility to fight back through the system, and that's what they're doing..
They would be standing up for their constituents if they had the courage to show up and vote.
We can no longer do things they way they were always done. Drastic measures are needed for everyone (union members also) to tighten their belts. How many times those of you working in the private sector had to skip a pay increase, or take a lower % because the company's bottom line that year wasn't as good as they'd hoped? How often did you have to pony up a bit more for your insurance coverage because the company was cutting back even before the economy tanked? And we all did that even though we weren't happy about it, but we were glad to still have a job.
What makes these government workers think they are entitled to all the wonderful benefits that taxpayers have been paying for during the good times? Isn't it time for them to share some of the load? They still pay less for their benefits than the private sector does. Good grief, how much is enough for these people?
Wish the teachers who walked out could be replaced the way the air traffic controllers were replaced. I'm tired of hearing how all that the teachers do is for "for the children." That has been overworked and no longer rings true.
The president's favorite voting power block (unions) is being threatened with some loss of power and control, so he's weighing in on their side. Don't be fooled. He's not for the people or anybody's right to bargain. He's for himself and the power base he's been building. He doesn't want to see any of it eroded. Well, when the state runs out of money and goes bankrupt, who will pay these salaries? When the reality sets in, will these employees be happy to stay home then?
Wrong. The senators have walked out on the job they were elected to do. They need to defend their position and their constituents by voting, not by neglecting their job. It's dereliction of duty, and voters are sick of these silly games, on both sides.
They would be standing up for their constituents if they had the courage to show up and vote.
We can no longer do things they way they were always done. Drastic measures are needed for everyone (union members also) to tighten their belts. How many times those of you working in the private sector had to skip a pay increase, or take a lower % because the company's bottom line that year wasn't as good as they'd hoped? How often did you have to pony up a bit more for your insurance coverage because the company was cutting back even before the economy tanked? And we all did that even though we weren't happy about it, but we were glad to still have a job.
What makes these government workers think they are entitled to all the wonderful benefits that taxpayers have been paying for during the good times? Isn't it time for them to share some of the load? They still pay less for their benefits than the private sector does. Good grief, how much is enough for these people?
Wish the teachers who walked out could be replaced the way the air traffic controllers were replaced. I'm tired of hearing how all that the teachers do is for "for the children." That has been overworked and no longer rings true.
I hope this goes on for weeks... the schools stay closed, the kids don't get promoted because they don't have enough time in the classroom, and mom and dad can't go to work because they have to be home with the kids. Bring the state to its knees... on the backs of the dems. LOL
What cracked me up was watching this on the cBS evening news. The protestors were mostly overweight white guys and judging by the skill level of their chants, they didn't appear to be that bright. Those are all things democrats hate, but as long as it's a union thing, it gets a pass. The part that didn't crack me up was the cBS reporter helping the person she was interviewing. She basically "said the words for her" and the interviewee just agreed. Pathetic!
hypocrites are the lowest form of life on Earth.
The end of the democratic process by trying to forcefully shut down unions, and their right to collectively bargain, simply because you disapprove of their very existence. That's what he was getting at, and the Senators left the state to essentially tell the R's where they could shove it.
first walkers does NOT want to take away the right to collectively bargain, he wants to limit it to actual pay though. second he wants the government employees to pay for at least part of their retirement and health care rather than get it all free. in fact private workers are wondering where they can sign up for the benefit payments that walker wants to institute, which are half of what the private sector pays.
in the end this is an illegal strike, and the DNC and obamas campaign arm are interfering with the contractual obligations the teachers have with the state, and they can face legal issues if they continue to push the strikers and interfere with the contract.
in my opinion walked is trying to balance the budget WITHOUT eliminating jobs. however if i were in his place, i would tell the strikers to get back to work on monday morning, or face termination.
Where is Bill Ayers? I suspect there is some coaching going on just like his group did overseas.
Should I try to find him?
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