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Old 03-01-2011, 03:54 PM
 
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China is financing $1.16T of US debt. Very interesting...

China's US debt holdings jump 30% easing financing fear

Here's the craplist of who owns our debt and the amounts for the last year. China and Japan finances almost half of our foreign based debt.

MAJOR FOREIGN HOLDERS OF TREASURY SECURITIES
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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So? How is it interesting? Just another fear mongering post about China.
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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So? How is it interesting? Just another fear mongering post about China.
It's the part of the right wing urban legend...China buys all the US debt it can get it's hands on....then for some strange reason will decide in the future to stop buying our debt..and will begin badmouthing the US financial system...thus driving their own multi-Trillion dollar investment in this country to zero.

Makes sense right?
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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So? How is it interesting? Just another fear mongering post about China.
That was a play on words - meaning that we are paying them a bunch of interest on the loan.

No fear mongering - that's fact-mongering. Who's the adult that will deal with this?
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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That was a play on words - meaning that we are paying them a bunch of interest on the loan.

No fear mongering - that's fact-mongering. Who's the adult that will deal with this?
What's so special about China holding the debt as opposed to any other country? If you're worried about the debt in general, then there are a ton of other threads about it.
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:54 PM
 
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can america "default"?

we know americans (the citizens) can, but can america (the nation)
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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Let's send them our illegal drugs caught by law enforcement and make some sort of deal
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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It's the part of the right wing urban legend...China buys all the US debt it can get it's hands on....then for some strange reason will decide in the future to stop buying our debt..and will begin badmouthing the US financial system...thus driving their own multi-Trillion dollar investment in this country to zero.

Makes sense right?
It would help if you had a clue about how bond markets work before assembling that strawman.

(In before padcrasher makes up a story about how he's supposedly involved with the financial markets or knows people who are.)
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It was also "very interesting" in 2007 when the figure was the same 1.2 trillion. Should it be more interesting now? What is interesting is the fact that certain people have been saying that China is not interested in US debt anymore, but that information seems to be false.

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Old 03-01-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...uments/mfh.txt

Even though overall holdings have gone up, the foreign central banks who are buying them up are in the same deep s**t economically that we're in. China's holdings have actually dropped. The point is, that when QE2 inevitably fails, QE3 may very well bring instability in the bond markets and trigger sell off and zero demand for our treasuries.
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