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The infrastructure isn't there to make a quick switch. It would have to be a gradual weaning off of it. But, we really should start that weaning process. The process may even create new jobs. I just know that our dependency on oil is hurting us as a nation and it shapes our foreign policy. It rubs me the wrong way that we have anything to do with countries like Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. We really need to be self-sufficient when it comes to the energy that move our nation.
Exacxtly- which is why we need to try to keep gas prices under control right now. It appears that Obama wants the prices to explode to force a change. I am all for making that change but not that way. I do not disagree with anything you have said but I do not think it's a good idea to force the change through crippling gas prices.
I'm all for forcing us to get off of oil and move to hydrogen, electric, and whatever. To me, it's a matter of national security. Oil has enslaved us. It will always be needed for other things (plastics and such), but if we can get off of it as a source of fuel, we will be better off - personally and with our foreign policy.
Do you know how we produce electricity in this country? That's right by burning coal.
Now ask Obama what he thinks about coal mining.
Ask him how many nuclear energy plants he has proposed to build.
...which is exactly why there was a complete "shadow" government infrastructure quietly constructed Top Secret America | washingtonpost.com and broad authority granted to FEMA as well as the US military to conduct ops on American soil.
Yea, it's almost as crazy as Alex Jones or Glenn Beck, but you can't just do this stuff in broad daylight, so "check and redirect" is employed to carry it out below the radar where only kooks dare to peek. They see the pieces, but wack out with their conclusions, which in turn makes the kooks otherwise valid discovered bits and pieces seem wacky too and therefore ignored by the mainstream, hidden in plain sight.
The plan is to go Gaddafi on the population when/if history inevitably repeats itself. It may work... it might not. But it's gonna be ugly, and the means for the government to survive that contingency are already in place.
You have more faith in government being able to accomplish something/anything than I do. If anything I see them as just as inept as the socialists/communists were in russia, china, cambodia et al were.
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Drill our own oil until technological breakthrus allow something else to replace it. It isn't rocket science.......or maybe it is for some of us.
BTW no self respecting libertarian would ever suggest the government to proscribe this. A job like this is just too damned important to be left to government.
The technology is there - the will isn't. Again, the government prime directive is to protect this nation. Our dependency on foreign oil is contrary to that. Even if we go to just using our own oil as we eventually transition off of it is fine with me. I'm not for eliminating gas powered cars (I love old cars), but there are options out there that are being denied to us all because of the death grip the oil companies have on us. That IS very Libertarian of me.
You have more faith in government being able to accomplish something/anything than I do. If anything I see them as just as inept as the socialists/communists were in russia, china, cambodia et al were.
You might be right in the end. All I can count on is them trying to maintain continuity with all they've got, which incidentally is A LOT.
Which is the exact reason people like Inhofe are bought and paid off by the Oil Industry.... We have a budget problem, the GOP keeps harping on, but we can't dare cut that $4 billion in oil subsidies to companies making the largest profits in the entire country now can we....
Its like some posters never learn..
The subsidy is credits which help research environmental friendly research.. things like natural gas powered cars.. Are you against environmentally friendly research? Did you object to Obamas billions of dollars in solar research?
The subsidy is credits which help research environmental friendly research.. things like natural gas powered cars.. Are you against environmentally friendly research? Did you object to Obamas billions of dollars in solar research?
The subsidies have gone to deep water drilling, oil oil and more oil.
That's all well and good but how will an already shaky economy do when gas tops 5.00 per gallon? Remember that menas that the price of food and everything else we use will sky rocket. Can we survive that while we wait what could turn out to be many years for viable alternative energy sources to become available?
I good reason to get started on researching and developing viable alternative energy sources now.
[instead of waiting until gas tops $5/gallon or more and then wondering why we waited until the last minute]
Jobs: A Spanish economics professor said attempts by his country to create a green economy would fail. Now a Spanish government report confirms his findings, blunting claims that the professor's report was biased.
The professor, Gabriel Calzada Alvarez of Juan Carlos University in Madrid, produced a 41-page study last year on the European experiment of going full bore on the conservation front. He found that "the Spanish/EU-style 'green jobs' agenda now being promoted in the U.S. in fact destroys jobs."
For every green job created by the Spanish government, Alvarez found that 2.2 jobs were destroyed elsewhere in the economy because resources were directed politically and not rationally, as in a market economy.
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