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And I can give you direct anecdotal evidence to support the idea that unions harm the economy. I spoke to a guy a couple weeks ago that works for a packing plant that said the reason their plant is open is because they are not unionized. It was a simple fact that if they went union the would likely have their plant closed because the company couldn't afford the wages.
I'd rather live in New York, Illinois, California, or Hawaii, than Alabama, Arkansas, Texas, or Mississippi. No contest.
I couldn't agree more, I would rather you live in New York, Illinois, California, or Hawaii, than Alabama, Arkansas, Texas, or Mississippi. No contest.
Spin it anyway you want but the current union stranglehold on the taxpayers is not acceptable.
Who in their right mind would find it acceptable to pay blackmail to keep their job?
Who would chose to run a business by embracing union rules?
Who would want to have their hard earned money spent on a political agenda they did not agree with. 7+million$ by the njea to campaign against CC.
The refrain, 'it's for the children' , by the NEA, rivals the Aesop fable where we learned that when somes cries the 'sky is falling' or yells 'wolf'. that may not be the case.
Cause and effect is tough to prove and even if it had a direct effect the comradarie of the union elite and socialists are not acceptable as their agenda is ecomnomically and socially destructive. Having the union elite negotiate with the people they put in office is referred to as 'payback' not negotiation. The taxpayers are left without a voice.
Odd, there is a coorelation between generational democratic control of cities and the economic, criminal and social disasters they have become.
Failed comparison.. is GOVERNMENT in those states with higher unionization better? Lets review such a few shall we?
New York, California, Michigan... highest rate of unions..
Arent they just about bankrupt?
States citizens might be better with unions, but the ultimate effect is a negative effect on governments.. they work against one another..
Basically the Wisconsin teachers need to see some zero tolerance if they can't be peaceful like the tea party rallies;IMO.In the end it was clear from testimony to congress last week o the state of the states just where states stood in debt problems.It wasn't the one that have taken steps to address their problem already.I fact most are preparing for the redcutions of federal grnats etd coming i the future n matter who doesn't want them. Read the presidents commison report to see that the future like it or not has mmasive cuts coming.
And I can give you direct anecdotal evidence to support the idea that unions harm the economy. I spoke to a guy a couple weeks ago that works for a packing plant that said the reason their plant is open is because they are not unionized. It was a simple fact that if they went union the would likely have their plant closed because the company couldn't afford the wages.
you do realize how worthless "direct anecdotal evidence" is, don't you? there is "direct anecdotal evidence" for pretty much everything.
Their company couldn't afford to pay their workers another buck or two an hour? Funny, I wonder how many millions they will hand to the CEO when he walks out the door on them.
Why has "union" become such a dirty word? Don't forget these are the people who brought you things like weekends, overtime pay, and worker's rights.
Some union heads get corrupt. Some union workers get lazy. That's people for you. they are often corrupt and lazy, in pretty much all walks of life. Most of them are not, just like most union workers are just regular people.
The CEOs with their hundred million dollar strategies are the ones running companies into bankruptcy, not the guys on the production lines who ask for a dollar an hour wage increase. Not the corrupt union leader who takes home MAYBE 20 grand a year illicitly. The CEOs who earn millions until they bleed a company to death and then are paid tens of millions as they walk out the door.
yes, unions are so great. new york is doing so great isn't it? tenure is amazing isn't it?
yeah, whatever. pardon my "ignorance," but if someone's not doing their job, boom, they're gone. this whole crap about unions and "seniority" and tenure and whatnot is exactly what got my uncle in new england laid off. he was one of the top guys at his office, the smartest guy i know, boss loved him, but he was a junior. the senior, who is a 63 year old fat@&# and does nothing but show up to work whenever, drive the company car wherever, while the whole office dogs her kept her job because of unionization, seniority. or how about crappy teachers who are nearly impossible to fire unless they strangle a kid to friggin death? underperformance is so great, isn't it? i remember a similar study performed by princeton and uc berkeley who concluded the complete opposite of what richard florida did.
So true people in NY are leaving in droves. Most are retired public union workers taking those pensions to FL to save money on taxes, imagine that!
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