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Old 03-10-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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Than those with lower unionization have.


Unions and State Economies: Don't Believe the Hype - Richard Florida - Business - The Atlantic
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC NoVA
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yes, unions are so great. new york is doing so great isn't it? tenure is amazing isn't it?
yeah, whatever. pardon my "ignorance," but if someone's not doing their job, boom, they're gone. this whole crap about unions and "seniority" and tenure and whatnot is exactly what got my uncle in new england laid off. he was one of the top guys at his office, the smartest guy i know, boss loved him, but he was a junior. the senior, who is a 63 year old fat@&# and does nothing but show up to work whenever, drive the company car wherever, while the whole office dogs her kept her job because of unionization, seniority. or how about crappy teachers who are nearly impossible to fire unless they strangle a kid to friggin death? underperformance is so great, isn't it? i remember a similar study performed by princeton and uc berkeley who concluded the complete opposite of what richard florida did.

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Old 03-10-2011, 08:55 PM
 
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its a very academically poorly written article. but with all of these things, it is just a CORRELATION not a CAUSATION.
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:24 PM
 
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its a very academically poorly written article. but with all of these things, it is just a CORRELATION not a CAUSATION.
Yes it is. There is evidence that correlation does equal causation.
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:46 PM
 
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What have unions done in the private sector?

Was it good for automotive?
Was it good for steel?
How is manufacturing going?

As bad as that went, when you have unions in government you have tentacles reaching into the treasury for support when in real life they truly are unsustainable.
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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You smoked, bad for you.
Texas is the largest jobs creator in 2010, it's a right-to-work state
And did you forget California is almost banktupted ?
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:51 PM
 
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You smoked, bad for you.
Texas is the largest jobs creator in 2010, it's a right-to-work state
And did you forget California is almost banktupted ?
I'm here in CA and Democrats have had people put their hands so deep into our treasury that we are doomed IMO.
Brown won't touch unions who paid over 150 million for him.
We are complaining about 26 billion but have a 500 billion deficit in due retirement pensions.
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:51 PM
 
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You smoked, bad for you.
Texas is the largest jobs creator in 2010, it's a right-to-work state
And did you forget California is almost banktupted ?
I'd rather live in New York, Illinois, California, or Hawaii, than Alabama, Arkansas, Texas, or Mississippi. No contest.
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:53 PM
 
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Anything from 1988 is irrelevant and the states in most dire straits today are the heavily unionized ones.

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Old 03-10-2011, 11:55 PM
 
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Well if knowledge is key - you need another key
You must be kidding - can we all say California

Were not talking private unions here. We are talking
public sector unions that are taking the tax payers
for a ride -
now ride on out of here

Steven Greenhut: Public Employee Unions Are Sinking California - WSJ.com

Approximately 85% of the state's 235,000 employees (not including higher education employees) are unionized. As the governor noted during his $83 billion budget roll-out, over the past decade pension costs for public employees increased 2,000%.
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