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Old 03-15-2011, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Does this president have to make calculated deceptions every time he speaks?

The cost for oil has risen steadily under this president, and when he finally deigns to speak to the nation on March 11th, he repeats old campaign talking points and spews lies, distortions and partisan political rhetoric.
"We can't escape the fact that we control only 2% of the world's oil."
We have a lot more than 2% of the world’s oil, but we are only extracting a mere fraction of all the oil we have. We have about one trillion barrels of oil, it's in places like Alaska, off shore, and locked up in the shale of Wyoming, Utah, and Colorado.
"Industry holds leases on tens of millions of acres both offshore and on land where they aren't producing a thing."
This is such an overused distortion; it shows real dishonesty by our president for him to use it. Those leases are for exploration, and if a large enough deposit of oil is found, then it takes years of regulatory paperwork and court battles before they can ever drill. Where is the logic behind an oil company buying leases and refusing to drill when we have $105 per barrel prices?
"Last year...our oil production reached its highest level in 7 years."
Any increases in oil production would be from the fruits of the Clinton and Bush administrations, not 0bama’s. In fact, we should be pumping more oil, if not for democrats and weak-knees RINOs who would not authorize drilling in this country. Ten years from now we will be in a hurt locker due to 0bama’s efforts to thwart oil drilling and coal mining.

Before the accident with the Deepwater Horizon there were 55 oil rigs drilling offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. Then, in May of 2010 0bama started his six-month moratorium on deep water drilling. Last week, 25 rigs were operating in the Gulf of Mexico. How fewer oil well drilling equals more oil, i'll never know. There is a difference between oil rigs that are static, because of oil drilling bans, ect... and oil rigs that are actually pumping oil.

According to the Energy Information Administration (EIA) Web site:

"Domestic crude oil production, which increased by 150,000 bbl/d in 2010 to 5.51 million bbl/d, declines by 110,000 bbl/d in 2011 and by a further 130,000 bbl/d in 2012

EIA expects production from the Federal Gulf of Mexico (GOM) to fall by 240,000 bbl/d in 2011 and by a further 200,000 bbl/d in 2012.


Liquid fuel net imports, including both crude oil and refined products, fell from 57 percent of total U.S. consumption in 2008 to 49 percent in 2010, primarily because of the decline in consumption during the recession and rising domestic production."

Facts Don't Support Claims on Gulf of Mexico Oil Production - Energy Tomorrow Blog
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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"We have a lot more than 2% of the world’s oil, but we are only extracting a mere fraction of all the oil we have. We have about one trillion barrels of oil, it's in places like Alaska, off shore, and locked up in the shale of Wyoming, Utah, and Colorado."

I agree there is lots of oil in alaska and Canada's artic otherwise why would russia send deep sea submersibles on military ships to try and figure out how much is they and to try and get control of the artic shelf so they can drill it even though it is in US/Canadian waters
from the Hayward/Canadian Press)

The Arctic is under siege as never before.

The Russians send submarines deep below the North Pole. The Americans dispatch surveillance planes to monitor new threats in the North. And Canada scrambles to defend territories it has ignored for too long.
In 2007, the stakes were raised considerably when Russia launched a naval manoeuvre designed to plant an actual Russian flag, in a titanium capsule, at the base of the North Pole, 4,200 metres below sea level.

Russia's game plan was to extend its territory almost up to the Pole itself, to claim the vast mineral and energy resources many feel lie underneath the Arctic ice.

The North Pole is considered an international site and is administered by the International Seabed Authority. But if a country can prove its underwater shelf is an extension of its continental border, then it can claim an economic zone based on that.

And that's what Russia is doing by systematically charting the reach of its Lomonosov underwater shelf. As a spokesman for its Arctic and Antarctic Institute said, "It's like putting a flag on the moon."
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It just shows how dishonest this president is, when he has to willingly allow the people to be misled. either he is lying, or he is an ignorant fool, and his administration is feeding him misinformation.
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwhibxrivyA
well canada and the US signed that new trade and security deal so in a sense we are one huge nation interms of our border and assets in a sense we have all the resources both countires could ever need for next 200-300 years and lots of oil
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The USA reached its oil peak in 1970 (about 10 million bbl/day, about half of what we consume today). Before you go about blaming the current President, tell me: why couldn't we sustain even that level?
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The USA reached its oil peak in 1970 (about 10 million bbl/day, about half of what we consume today). Before you go about blaming the current President, tell me: why couldn't we sustain even that level?
so yo use deflection? The president is a liar, because he purposely misleads the public. He cannot ban oil drilling, and then claim that because he banned drilling, we now pump more oil. when he infers that we are pumping so much oil, that we are able to import less foreign oil, he is misleading the nation because we are actually in a recession and our economy is in a deep slump.

0bama claiming credit for reduced oil consumption in America, due to his energy policies, would be akin to the Japanese Prime Minister, Naoto Kan, bragging about the reduction in the consumption of electricity in Japan was because of his energy policies.

BTW, we have discovered more oil since 1970, the government just wants to stop us from getting to it.
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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so yo use deflection? The president is a liar, because he purposely misleads the public. He cannot ban oil drilling...
No deflection, a reality check before getting onto the discussion. Unless being short sighted whiner is a prerequisite to participate in this thread. Let me know, and I will gladly get out of here, or retry.
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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Because he is a complete Progressive ideologue. Lying is their sharpest and most used tool.
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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The cost for oil has risen steadily under this president,
Yada, yada, yada...

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]We have about one trillion barrels of oil, it's in places like Alaska, off shore, and locked up in the shale of Wyoming, Utah, and Colorado.
Now whose telling fairy tales? Try, 134 billion that's more than a few zeros short of a trillion.

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Those leases are for exploration, and if a large enough deposit of oil is found, then it takes years of regulatory paperwork and court battles before they can ever drill.
Ah... how do you discover large deposits? BY DRILLING!!! In other words the permitting process happens before the lease is let.

When you can't get your first two points even vaguely right...
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:28 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Before the accident with the Deepwater Horizon there were 55 oil rigs drilling offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. Then, in May of 2010 0bama started his six-month moratorium on deep water drilling. Last week, 25 rigs were operating in the Gulf of Mexico. How fewer oil well drilling equals more oil, i'll never know. There is a difference between oil rigs that are static, because of oil drilling bans, ect... and oil rigs that are actually pumping oil.
You are just a tad off in your numbers - there are over 3,800 active platforms in the Gulf.


File:Gulf Coast Platforms.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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