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Figured I'd toss this out there, since over my time here I've seen way too many people on this board toss out the "hero" moniker to idiots who don't deserve the term (lady who tries to hit gunman with purse, guy from '127 hours', etc.)
Japanese nuclear plant workers emerging as heroic figures in tragedy - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110315/ts_yblog_thelookout/japanese-nuclear-plant-workers-emerging-as-heroic-figures-in-tragedy - broken link)
That's heroic. Not some idiot who goes into the wilderness alone or some lady who half-heartedly hits a guy holding a gun with her purse. These 50 rank right up there with Anatoly Grishchenko (look him up).
Figured I'd toss this out there, since over my time here I've seen way too many people on this board toss out the "hero" moniker to idiots who don't deserve the term (lady who tries to hit gunman with purse, guy from '127 hours', etc.)
Japanese nuclear plant workers emerging as heroic figures in tragedy - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110315/ts_yblog_thelookout/japanese-nuclear-plant-workers-emerging-as-heroic-figures-in-tragedy - broken link)
That's heroic. Not some idiot who goes into the wilderness alone or some lady who half-heartedly hits a guy holding a gun with her purse. These 50 rank right up there with Anatoly Grishchenko (look him up).
They sure are.
Heyyyyy, isn't O'Keefe a hero too for his NPR expose videos?
I have to agree with the OP on this one. These workers will likely die a hideous death. They have been in my thoughts all day, I hope they fair far better than I expect. NO workers should ever be put in this position. This is not a power source we need.
I have to agree with the OP on this one. These workers will likely die a hideous death. They have been in my thoughts all day, I hope they fair far better than I expect. NO workers should ever be put in this position. This is not a power source we need.
On the contrary, I'm all in favour of nuclear power, as it is the best option we have. And I understand why Japan took the risks it did, given its relatively small landmass but enormous power consumption needs due to population density and technology, but the problem here was putting these plants on a fault line, not their construction in general.
Here in the US, the best solution was (and continues to be) placing a number of them in the Northern-central side of the country (the Dakota's, Nebraska, etc.) where they aren't in danger of hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. (the way they are built, they can withstand even an F5 class tornado). In Japan I don't know what the solution is. They simply lack the space for solar, wind doesn't produce enough, hydro can only get them so far, they lack the resources for coal. Maybe geothermal, but people have largely ignored it.
Figured I'd toss this out there, since over my time here I've seen way too many people on this board toss out the "hero" moniker to idiots who don't deserve the term (lady who tries to hit gunman with purse, guy from '127 hours', etc.)
Japanese nuclear plant workers emerging as heroic figures in tragedy - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110315/ts_yblog_thelookout/japanese-nuclear-plant-workers-emerging-as-heroic-figures-in-tragedy - broken link)
That's heroic. Not some idiot who goes into the wilderness alone or some lady who half-heartedly hits a guy holding a gun with her purse. These 50 rank right up there with Anatoly Grishchenko (look him up).
The Japanese have been great; but we can't find a President, Congress and Senate who will pass a balanced budget amendment and laws to pay off the national debt.
That my friends would be courage.
On the contrary, I'm all in favour of nuclear power, as it is the best option we have. And I understand why Japan took the risks it did, given its relatively small landmass but enormous power consumption needs due to population density and technology, but the problem here was putting these plants on a fault line, not their construction in general.
Here in the US, the best solution was (and continues to be) placing a number of them in the Northern-central side of the country (the Dakota's, Nebraska, etc.) where they aren't in danger of hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. (the way they are built, they can withstand even an F5 class tornado). In Japan I don't know what the solution is. They simply lack the space for solar, wind doesn't produce enough, hydro can only get them so far, they lack the resources for coal. Maybe geothermal, but people have largely ignored it.
Figured I'd toss this out there, since over my time here I've seen way too many people on this board toss out the "hero" moniker to idiots who don't deserve the term (lady who tries to hit gunman with purse, guy from '127 hours', etc.)
Japanese nuclear plant workers emerging as heroic figures in tragedy - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110315/ts_yblog_thelookout/japanese-nuclear-plant-workers-emerging-as-heroic-figures-in-tragedy - broken link)
That's heroic. Not some idiot who goes into the wilderness alone or some lady who half-heartedly hits a guy holding a gun with her purse. These 50 rank right up there with Anatoly Grishchenko (look him up).
Every time I see some of those obviously brave people inside their protective gear I have to wonder if they are as likely to be affected as those in Hiroshima, minus any gear were. I keep thinking that their dosimeters will help in their protection and that they all are very experienced in the whole thing.
I think I am saying that the American MSM is trying very hard to make it appear worse than it is in order to affect the way our government weakens on its recently found desire to resume building nuclear facilities here. I really wonder if any of them are ready to come forward with any answers about how we manage to provide electricity to the coming generation since our leaders have decided that we aren't to construct any more coal fired generating plants, and we are short on oil which is so terrible, anyway, and natural gas although being less air fouling is still nothing else other than less.
Do you have any ideas about how we provide electricity for say 350 million people when we can't provide anything like enough with present facilities? I do wonder what happens in winter when we need electricity so badly to heat our homes and businesses since heat is very necessary. I sure hope somebody comes up with an answer.
Maybe Agenda 21 proposed by the UN can answer my question. That thing says that we would do away with humans in the central part of the country except for some cities where the survivors will be racked and stacked in high rise buildings. When I see what has happened in Japan with their high rises that were constructed to withstand pretty tough earthquakes when so many of ours weren't 50 or 100 years ago when they were built I wonder what the building standards of the Agenda 21 crowd will be. Since they want to lower the population of the world, substantially, I imagine they won't wast money on well constructed facilities.
I do hope that our people can withstand winters with the shortage of electricity that will come from the present plans of our administration.
On the contrary, I'm all in favour of nuclear power, as it is the best option we have. And I understand why Japan took the risks it did, given its relatively small landmass but enormous power consumption needs due to population density and technology, but the problem here was putting these plants on a fault line, not their construction in general.
Here in the US, the best solution was (and continues to be) placing a number of them in the Northern-central side of the country (the Dakota's, Nebraska, etc.) where they aren't in danger of hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. (the way they are built, they can withstand even an F5 class tornado). In Japan I don't know what the solution is. They simply lack the space for solar, wind doesn't produce enough, hydro can only get them so far, they lack the resources for coal. Maybe geothermal, but people have largely ignored it.
How can we make those states the centers of power production when they do provide some very important food products? When you take up as much of them to build wind and solar generators and then get in with the nuclear production that is about all they have room for. I mention those two renewables because they seem to be the favorites for the Obama administration.
Another question would be about the construction of the huge lines of transmission that would be needed to distribute that power around 1500 miles to the coasts. Just wondering about that one.
Have you seen a lot of left overs from F5 tornadoes? I also wonder about that. I saw one town obliterated by one of those things not too long ago and there simply was nothing left in the direct path, about a mile wide. However, the grain elevators, pretty high stood through it all.
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