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"they steal it from the private sector worker, and give it to the public union employee. The don't call it campaign contributions and vote-buying for nothing!"
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Well, we, the people who actually LIVE in Wisconsin, don't see them as fleeing to avoid service but to provide service. They walked across the state line to attempt to prevent Walker and his merry band of bought and paid for thugs from destroying the things that have made Wisconsin a great state. You clearly don't live here so you don't care about our clean air, our clean water, our great educational system, our excellent roads, police, fire fighters, cleans streets, and prompt public service to the citizens. WE DO.
I just moved out of Wisconsin. It is one of the highest taxed states in the country. I had my kids in some of your so called great educational systems. It was nothing to write home about. I for one hope walkers plan goes through. Just because you work for the government does not entitle you to burden the tax payers to continually foot your bills.
The open meetings law still applies, which the GOP broke
You say the open meeting law still applies and I've read thru this and can't find your statement as fact. Direct me to where it says that special sessions have to follow open meeting rules.
Then I find it interesting it was Democrates who authored the rules. Obviously it is now back firing on them.
Just like it was Democrates who took collective bargaining away from Federal workers, funny how things have changed.
Senate Rule 93, which provides that for special session bills, “no notice of hearing before a committee shall be required other than posting on the legislative bulletin board,” was actually authored in 1983 by Democratic State Senator Fred Risser (D-Madison), with current Senator Tim Cullen (D-Janesville) the first co-author. The rule’s Assembly counterpart was also implemented in 1983, and supporters included Madison Representative Midge Miller, mother of current Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D-Monona).
]This is good news. Those workers don't deserve to have this done to them and it wasn't going to balance the budget anyway.
The taxpayers don't deserve to be taxed out of their homes to pay for ridiculously lucrative wages and benefit packages, when the taxpayers don't get anywhere near as good deals from their private sector employers. "Walker campaigned on bringing public employee benefits in line with the private sector. Right now, most state workers, including employees of Wisconsin Public Radio, pay next to nothing toward their pension, and have favorable rates for health care." Union Changes In Wisconsin Spark Protests : NPR
For heaven's sake, police and firefighters are totally exempt from all these changes! So this reform doesn't go nearly far enough (police and firefighters are by far the best compensated of public employees), but at least this one state is making an effort to stop taxing people out of their homes.
Public workers should NOT be allowed to unionize, since they and the ones negotiating against them are both on the same side--as public employees. The more the unions get paid and get super-generous benefits, the better the pay and benefits of the Town Officials negotiating with them. The only people not represented in this negotiation process is the taxpayer that must pay whatever the two groups of public employees can imagine in their wildest dreams. This is how public employee wages, compensation and pensions have skyrocketed to levels that threaten many jurisdictions with bankruptcy, and many local taxpayers with having to sell their homes at a loss because the property taxes are impossible to bear.
Private sector unions are a totally different beast--they negotiate with the business owner for a proper distribution of profits. There is absolutely NO place for unions in the public sector.
If public employees continue with their greed to stay several class levels above the people they are supposed to be serving, I hope all the States and Local Governments decide to simply declare bankruptcy and start from scratch, firing every existing public employee and starting over. Just like private companies get out from onerous pensions by a simple "change of control," let greedy public workers face what many private workers already have to deal with--the loss of a vested pension. At least public workers have ridiculously generous wages and other compensation to console them: the rest of us don't get much of those, and have to work 60 to 80 hours a week to get what little our private employers give us.
You say the open meeting law still applies and I've read thru this and can't find your statement as fact. Direct me to where it says that special sessions have to follow open meeting rules.
The open meetings rule applies to EVERYTHING. There are no exceptions to following the open meetings law, the GOP broke the law, the vote was illegal and invalid.
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