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SoCalCroozer · 03-20-2011, 06:23 AM

This Libyan crisis will turn ugly mark my word. It's not about democracy, it's about a bunch of adolescent minded idiot leaders. I mean look at this picture..........it speaks VOLUMES about the world we live in and just what goes on behind the backs of the American and European people. And we just grab our ankles and take it. Pathetic.

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Irishiis49 · 03-20-2011, 06:27 AM

I've always believed that if we still had a draft we wouldn't be in the last few wars. As long as we view our enlisted men and woman as expendable this will continue!

BentBow · 03-20-2011, 06:32 AM

There is nothing good over there right now, but OIL!

Qadaffi is bad news.
Radical Islamic Democracies, are a bad deal, too.

Is this a case of, "Your enemy is your friend"
The end justifies the means?????

Frank DeForrest · 03-20-2011, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishiis49

I've always believed that if we still had a draft we wouldn't be in the last few wars. As long as we view our enlisted men and woman as expendable this will continue!

IMO the draft would make it easier.
Nothing says "expendable" like the state taking you from your home, sticking a rifle in your hand and shoving you to the front line.

Irishiis49 · 03-20-2011, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

IMO the draft would make it easier.
Nothing says "expendable" like the state taking you from your home, sticking a rifle in your hand and shoving you to the front line.

I don't know about that Frank, I think if some parents of an A student college age kid was forced to go off to war people would be screaming. I think enlisted soliders have the perception (not rightly so) of having less option/less going for them so to speak. I think that is why we (the American public)have been too complacent in this

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Recovering Democrat · 03-20-2011, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalCroozer

This Libyan crisis is not about democracy, it's about a bunch of adolescent minded idiot leaders.

We are defending the Lybian opposition for humanitarian reasons. I don't like it, but I support it.

Did you oppose American action against Nazi Germany, Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, Somalia, Rawanda, Balkins?

TheFix · 03-20-2011, 06:44 AM

To avenge Pan Am Flight 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland, where 140 Americans were killed and about 40 Britons.

This is what it's really all about.

Irishiis49 · 03-20-2011, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Recovering Democrat

We are defending the Lybian opposition for humanitarian reasons. I don't like it, but I support it.

Did you oppose American action against Nazi Germany, Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, Somalia, Rawanda, Balkins?

And all these countries are so grateful to us for our sacrafice

and respect us so much

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Recovering Democrat · 03-20-2011, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishiis49

And all these countries are so grateful to us for our sacrafice

and respect us so much

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Doing what's right is it's own reward. If you act because you expect "gratitude" and/or "respect" in exchange, then you are really just a mercenary.

Frank DeForrest · 03-20-2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Recovering Democrat

Doing what's right is it's own reward. If you act because you expect "gratitude" and/or "respect" in exchange, then you are really just a mercenary.

If you consider sacrificing your own people,destroying resources and spending billions a "reward".

And by what moral authority are we considered "right"?