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View Poll Results: Should the Constitution be changed to allow naturalized U.S. Citizens to become President?
Yes 20 18.02%
No 91 81.98%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-29-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Burn the constitution, it has been nothing more than a failed experiment.

It worked very well until someone didn't follow it.

Lincoln attacked our Constitution.
Wilson attacked our Constitution
Hoover attacked our Constitution
FDR tote the thing up and was KING until his death.


Bad things happen when our Constitution is not followed to the letter, with the intent in which it was composed.
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:40 PM
 
Location: TMI
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Same goes for the Pythagorean theorem?
It's a mathematical theorem. It still applies because it's still true. Nice try.

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The law is the law. Rules are rules. You don't just change the rules because you don't like them.
Another one. You just could have said "I've got nothing to say."

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I am 78 and think I have spent more time studying the Constitution than you have even been around. I don't think that the Founders worried about the royal family of England wanting to run this country today. No, they were preventing it back then and not just the royals of England.

Now it is time for you to point out all my invalid points. You seem to think that when some liberal group thinks it is time to amend it has to happen. You point out all those invalid points and I will try to discuss them with you.
You didn't even have any points.. Saying "they would do whatever with the Constitution" is nothing. Saying "it has always worked" has nothing to with with the topic, and it's wrong. You've got nothing. No surprise. Either address the points, or quit beating around the bush.
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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It's a mathematical theorem. It still applies because it's still true. Nice try.

Explain what you think "outdated" means.

Give your best Bill Clinton impersonation.

Thank you.
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:47 PM
 
Location: TMI
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Explain what you think "outdated" means.

Give your best Bill Clinton impersonation.

Thank you.
You don't know what the word outdated means, huh? Let's see, maybe as in old, written under the circumstances of that time, circumstances that don't apply anymore. It's discrimination against other U.S. citizens. You're just trying to beat around the bush. Hoping something else comes up because you don't know what to say - because it's true.
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:53 PM
 
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You don't know what the word outdated means, huh? Let's see, maybe as in old, written under the circumstances of that time, circumstances that don't apply anymore. It's discrimination against other U.S. citizens. You're just trying to beat around the bush. Hoping something else comes up because you don't know what to say - because it's true.
Individual rights is outdated?

Say hello to my lil' fren.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVKPz...eature=related
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:05 PM
 
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You don't know what the word outdated means, huh? Let's see, maybe as in old, written under the circumstances of that time, circumstances that don't apply anymore. It's discrimination against other U.S. citizens. You're just trying to beat around the bush. Hoping something else comes up because you don't know what to say - because it's true.
The Constitution has been amended several times it can be amended again. There's a procedure to follow though.
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:19 PM
 
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To allow naturalized U.S. citizen to become President of the United States?

I do think so! They are being treated like second class citizens. That is wrong. We need to open the presidency to naturalized citizens. There is no reasonable reason not to do it.
No. Why do you want it changed anyway? No one has forced natualized citizens to become so; surely they knew our rules prior to becoming citizens!

All this sure sounds like a back door effort to legitimize obammy...has the bluff of the "real" birth certificate run out of steam? Are his dupes finally ready to admit the stupenous hoax?
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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This is not a reasonable argument against it. You're basically saying it's old - leave it alone. One can change more than once. And anybody who was born in the U.S. can have allegiance to a different country ( parents born there etc.) You are discriminating against immigrants.
Not only no, but he!! no!!! The "REASON" for the Constitution is that it works, has always worked and will always work. It is the most brilliant governing document the world has ever seen.

Don't screw with it. It is very simple, basic and keeps government in check while allowing all citizens to live whatever good life they for which they wish to take personal responsibility and for which to work and achieve. That is the one office that should be sacred to those born here in this Country...not naturalized in any way. Naturalization opens the door to destructive agendas.

It is all the man-made crap; i.e., laws, precedents and government regulations following the creation of our Constitution that should be evaluated and most purged so we can get back to square one.

Our Constitution stands and will stand forever whatever man-made changes man does to himself. Our Constitution is the only hope of man-kind to live a good life into perpetuity!
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, Florida
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In case you are not aware, we all descended from immigrants. We all have ancestors that came from somewhere else. Everyone that comes here has chances to obtain goals, and achieve dreams, that outside this great country may be unattainable.
But there are somethings that are only attainable if you were born in this country. And may I add we are not the only country, that has such rules.
We have the most open doors and freedoms, when it comes to our borders.
Sometimes people need to stop trying to change the rules, and just play the game.
Be thankful for what we have.
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:53 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, Florida
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absolutely
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