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During the Obamacare debate, the GOP complained that Obamacare would hurt seniors by cutting Medicare by $500 billion. Then they unanimously vote to eliminate medicare and replace it with vouches that does not guarantee benefits like medicare does. In which every single independent analysis states that seniors will be paying more out of pocket expenses.
With the deflections, someone please explain this to me.
We have been through this with you before, but apparently you did not understand.
When Obama cut Medicare by $500 billion, he did so to finance Obamacare. Without this "cut" (which was never going to happen), as well as other fraudulent accounting measures, Obamacare would be "budget neutral".
Conservatives were opposed to the cuts in medicare, as it was being used to simply fund another unfunded entitlement, thus further increasing the debt.
We are about reducing the debt, not increasing it.
We have been through this with you before, but apparently you did not understand.
When Obama cut Medicare by $500 billion, he did so to finance Obamacare. Without this "cut" (which was never going to happen), as well as other fraudulent accounting measures, Obamacare would be "budget neutral".
Conservatives were opposed to the cuts in medicare, as it was being used to simply fund another unfunded entitlement, thus further increasing the debt.
We are about reducing the debt, not increasing it.
Repealing the health care law will increase the debt.
1. How come now conservatives trust the CBO, when any time CBO says good things about Democratic plans they say the CBO is wrong?.
Nope, wrong...
When the CBO comes out and says that obama care is double counting this and that...which was proven by the CBO....and even told the admin, we cannot give an accurate reading because of this....
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2. Ryan's plan balances the budget in 2040.
O.K., you got me.....Now when does obamas plan balance the budget?
Absolutely. Why do you think Medicare Advantage was so successful?
MA plans provide a basic 80/20 level of insurance for people eligible for Medicare. The Ins Cos get about $14,000 per year from Medicare for every enrollee. The free market would charge about $12-13k for the same plans. The people with MA plans get Medicare plus free cotton balls, so they like the cotton balls. The Ins Cos get about 10% profit each year, they like that, Medicare does not have to process the claims but pay the additional 10% to the Ins Cos to handle the claims. Not a good return on an investment their as the cost to handle the claims would be about 2-3%, if that. The losers in the Medicare Advantage scam, are the American people who have to pay for the additional, unnecessary give away. You tell me, is Medicare Advantage a success?
MA plans provide a basic 80/20 level of insurance for people eligible for Medicare. The Ins Cos get about $14,000 per year from Medicare for every enrollee. The free market would charge about $12-13k for the same plans. The people with MA plans get Medicare plus free cotton balls, so they like the cotton balls. The Ins Cos get about 10% profit each year, they like that, Medicare does not have to process the claims but pay the additional 10% to the Ins Cos to handle the claims. Not a good return on an investment their as the cost to handle the claims would be about 2-3%, if that. The losers in the Medicare Advantage scam, are the American people who have to pay for the additional, unnecessary give away. You tell me, is Medicare Advantage a success?
Yeah, MA has keep costs down much more efficiently than traditional Medicare. With more customers prices would come down.
I've been trying to understand the connection between what the GOP says and does for decades. The only thing that keeps coming up in my mind is a scene from the Wizard of OZ. Remember when the big booming commands turned out to be from a sniveling, small mind in a dark, covered closet?
When the CBO comes out and says that obama care is double counting this and that...which was proven by the CBO....and even told the admin, we cannot give an accurate reading because of this....
O.K., you got me.....Now when does obamas plan balance the budget?
But this is from the CBO, so....I'm sure all lefties will complain...
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