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If the United States (or, for that matter, any country of your choice) had borders that looked anything like Israel's pre-1967 boundaries, would anyone here consider them defensible?
And if sharing our capital city with another country was a possibility, would anyone mind?
If the United States (or, for that matter, any country of your choice) had borders that looked anything like Israel's pre-1967 boundaries, would anyone here consider them defensible?
And if sharing our capital city with another country was a possibility, would anyone mind?
Yea, i'd mind. But D.C. doesn't have a history that's nearly as complicated as Jerusalem has.
I can't believe Obama was even stupid enough to suggest that any country leave itself and its citizens indefensible.
Why not? It is the same policy Obama is practicing with the US borders and their security. He is suing those states that try to step up where the federal government is failing to do their job. If Obama could find his way around the 2nd Amendment to leave citizens defenseless here he would do it in a heartbeat.
Obama is trying to buy quiet in the Middle East by selling out Israel just as Chamberlain sold out Czechoslovakia to Hitler hoping for temporary peace. Obama will be just as successful as Chamberlain. Obama apparently wasn't much of a history student except when it came to Marxism.
If the United States (or, for that matter, any country of your choice) had borders that looked anything like Israel's pre-1967 boundaries, would anyone here consider them defensible?
And if sharing our capital city with another country was a possibility, would anyone mind?
Fred, they don't give a s*** if the borders are defensible or not. If Israel is "illegal" nothing it does is OK. I have no problem with this opinion, as long as they state it as such, and stop the smart ass "innocent" tactic.
As for borders, Russia, the largest country on the globe, refuses to compromise on 2 tiny rocks in the Pacific with Japan and are ready to get into conflict over those. In 1982 the UK, went to war over the Falklands with Argentina. some 20000 miles from Home. China is ready to start WW3 over Taiwan and these are just a few examples. None of these territories are vital to these huge countries, yet they are ready to fight for them. And it is possible, that once China feels strong enough, they'll do just that and no liberals will find any wrong with starting WW3 over a tiny island. America will be accused of that.
On a side note, Israel withdrawal to pre 1967 borders it will not end the conflict. One reason is the 1.5M or more refugees in Syria, Lebanon and elsewhere. They will be left out and no Palestinian leader can agree to that.
If Israel is so hard to defend, maybe it shouldn't have been "made" in the first place...
Of course, if these are "God's people," then I'm sure they will trust in Him to defend them, even if the US backed out. After all, they have GOD on their side, right?
Why not? It is the same policy Obama is practicing with the US borders and their security. He is suing those states that try to step up where the federal government is failing to do their job. If Obama could find his way around the 2nd Amendment to leave citizens defenseless here he would do it in a heartbeat.
Obama is trying to buy quiet in the Middle East by selling out Israel just as Chamberlain sold out Czechoslovakia to Hitler hoping for temporary peace. Obama will be just as successful as Chamberlain. Obama apparently wasn't much of a history student except when it came to Marxism.
Name a Republican president in the last 40 years who's been tougher on the border than Obama.
Can't name one, can you? That's because there hasn't been.
If Israel is so hard to defend, maybe it shouldn't have been "made" in the first place...
Of course, if these are "God's people," then I'm sure they will trust in Him to defend them, even if the US backed out. After all, they have GOD on their side, right?
Oooof! You went there.
Fair enough point. If they're God's people, as so many conservatives erroneously believe, how can anything bad happen to them anyway? They shouldn't even need an army, right?
Israel did not defend those borders. Israel attacked it's neighbors from those borders. Israel attacked.
Correct! In 1948, Israel attacked Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq and Fawzi al-Qawuqji. All at once.
Or, in 1967, Israel blocked the maritime routes to Egypt, implementing its plan to throw 50M Egyptians into the Mediterranean sea (Let them swim!)
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