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Old 05-20-2011, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Why? To end thre conflict. Most Israelis want two states too, so they can put an end to the never ending conflict.
Give land back? How can that settle anything other than cause more pressure to give some more back and on and on?
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Please tell me you're not naive enough to believe everything will be hunky dory if this is done.
Well TheWon says it will be so that should answer your question for one of his strong supporters.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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Obama said which side he would stand on and he's proving it.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It seems the President Obama was misquoted. He said 1967 lines and not borders:
Obama Said "1967 lines" Not "Borders" - And It Matters - Defense/Middle East - Israel News - Israel National News

The missiles/rockets of today have higher capabilities than in the past which would make the 1967 armistice lines but much more difficult to defend than in the past.
I just heard what you say about 1967 from a man on TV and do think you are both right about what was actually said but I still think that the 1967 point is from the Hamas leaders and we all know why they want that.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Israel is our ally only in the sense that they have not attacked us.

Other than that, they are more than willing to take the money we give them and then go merrily about their business and do what they want, whether it hurts the US or not.

Some ally..
I wonder how many of the Muslim nations that Obama promised money to yesterday will be giving any of the money back. None of them are allies but they are tools we try to use against the rest of the Arabs.

The israelis know that they have been used by us to control the Middle East for a long time and therefore consider all our help to be something done in repayment for being a buffer.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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The Palestinians had been there for several generations. The Jews had been in Europe for probably a hundred generations. Yet that land was given to them as their "homeland", thats crazy.

The UK doesn't have generational claim to any land in the middle east.

Land is "owned" by whatever group occupies and can exercise property rights.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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As we have no duty to continue pouring billion$ into the region with little/no benefit to the US. I agree, none of our business, let the countries of the region determine their own fates.
But do you look at the fact that the Israelis intend to fight it out with weapons that so many here think all came from the US. That source is not really true any more than some of the weapons that will be used against them but I think I can guarantee you that they will fight with the centered purpose that any trapped animal uses. They may lose but they will take a huge number of Muslims with them.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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would be impossible to defend.

Yet, that very same border was not only defended during the 6-day war, Israel captured even more land.

Why would that border be impossible to defend today, but was defended and then some in 1967?

Any thoughts on this?
Netinyahu is right. They are hell and gone from the 67 borders.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Land is "owned" by whatever group occupies and can exercise property rights.
You should be glad the government isn't sending bulldozers to clear up "the mess" you live in because it feels that the property could be better utilized by a certain sect.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I think Netenyahoo will be getting that pointed out to him today.
And of course he will sit there and take that kind of crap without pointing out that they have been our buffer against the Muslims of the Middle East for over 60 years. I wonder if Obama has anyone to tell him the real truth about all this.
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