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Old 05-24-2011, 10:00 PM
 
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The issue with kerning being present needs to be answered. This new release of a BC is most defintely a forgery. Why it needed to be doctored nobody will know.

Its not and no amount of lying by birthers will change that fact.

Kerning existed in typewriters since their invention.
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:02 PM
 
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An affadavit is a legal statement made under penalty of perjury. If he has been found to be a liar, have they arrested him yet?

not its not. An affidavit is not legally binding. Anyone can do an "affidavit". The testimony under oath is more binding. And since Tim Adams is a known liar, once he is put on the stand, all the attorney for Obama has to do is present the COLB from Hawaii and that renders HIS HEARSAY testimony as nothing more than made up fiction


Please look up the definition of HEARSAY
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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not its not. An affidavit is not legally binding. Anyone can do an "affidavit". The testimony under oath is more binding. And since Tim Adams is a known liar, once he is put on the stand, all the attorney for Obama has to do is present the COLB from Hawaii and that renders HIS HEARSAY testimony as nothing more than made up fiction


Please look up the definition of HEARSAY
On the stand you say? That's exactly what we have been demanding. When that door is open for discovery, Obama is toast. But it doesn't look like that going to happen. Clarence Thomas openly admitted they are "avoding the issue".
However, if he has lied on this formal document, then he can be sued for libel or slander - why hasn't that happened? And what does Mr. Adams have to gain from lying?
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Does not matter...he is our first half-African American POTUS.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:18 PM
 
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However, if he has lied on this formal document, then he can be sued for libel or slander - why hasn't that happened? And what does Mr. Adams have to gain from lying?
Why hasn't he been sued for "libel and slander?" Because no matter how many times he repeats his hearsay, it hasn't caused any damage to anybody. No damages = no cause of action.

What does Adams have to gain? The respect of the white supremacists he was associating with when he first came out with his accusations. The respect of birthers like you. A little bit of notoriety. Maybe, if he's very lucky, a place as a right wing pundit in future.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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On the stand you say? That's exactly what we have been demanding. When that door is open for discovery, Obama is toast. But it doesn't look like that going to happen. Clarence Thomas openly admitted they are "avoding the issue".
No. He did not.

He said they were avoiding the issue of whether somebody born in Puerto Rico could be President.

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However, if he has lied on this formal document, then he can be sued for libel or slander - why hasn't that happened?
Who did he libel or slander? He didn't even mention anybody by name.

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And what does Mr. Adams have to gain from lying?
Your attention.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:30 PM
 
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Why bother with all that, when you can fill out a form, mail it in, and it's a done deal, newspaper notices and all. Grandma was a smart woman, she was the first female VP for the Bank of Hawaii. She may have even helped the CIA launder money thru that bank. She was no slouch. Someday, I'd like to read an honest bio of Obama, it would be much more interesting than the tale he tells.
so now granny may have laundered money for the CIA you have a great imagination claud
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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this one?
Yep. That one.

You can't see it on that tiny JPEG, but you can on the originally posted PDF.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:35 PM
 
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so now granny may have laundered money for the CIA you have a great imagination claud
Somebody had to do it.
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Old 05-25-2011, 12:34 AM
 
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On the stand you say? That's exactly what we have been demanding.
well first you've got to have standing and in 90 cases, Birthers are batting 0.

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When that door is open for discovery, Obama is toast.
Actually, having a case reach the Supreme Court doesn't grant discovery automatically. All the Attorneies for Obama have to do is present the COLB issued by Hawaii, with the letter by Loretta Fuddy attesting to the authenticity of the COLB's that were copied by HER , in person.

So it wouldn't even reach "discovery" because of a little thing in our Consittuion called the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

Best you look it up.

By the way, have you looked up the definition of HEARSAY yet?


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But it doesn't look like that going to happen. Clarence Thomas openly admitted they are "avoding the issue".
Actually it had to do with someone from Puerto Rico, A US territory, but citizens born in US Terrirtories are not eligible for running for the highest office of this land. This also applies to those born in Guam, Northern Mariana Islands and the US Virgin Islands.

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However, if he has lied on this formal document, then he can be sued for libel or slander - why hasn't that happened?
Actually, Obama has to show that he has been harmed financially by Tim Adams claim. Obama hasn't loss any money, so it would be stupid to chase down a lible/slander claim against him.

And he is a nobody, with ties to White Supremacists (his first interview was on a known White Supermacist website, hosted by a known White Supremacist), so his credibility is quite nill at this point.

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And what does Mr. Adams have to gain from lying?
Notoriety. 15 minutes of fame. That's what he got. There are some people who are just out there to see their names in the headlines. ::cough:::Orly Taitz:::cough::
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