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Old 06-13-2011, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
Grantor trusts have to share SSNs. Thats how tax liability remains in the hands of the actual property owner.


Please... even you don't really believe that. Show some dignity.
The Obama's are not the owners of the residence in Chicago, listed as 5046 S. Greenwood, 3 others are. So, how are they granting this home to Harrison, if they aren't even listed as owners? 3 others are, a judge, an accountant, and an attorney (Resko's). How many aliases does Obama have? How many social security numbers has he used. Who is Barry Soetoro? Why can't investigators find any evidence that a real person (with Obama's SS#) by the name of Harrison J Bounel ever existed?
Lies upon lies upon lies.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The Obama's are not the owners of the residence in Chicago, listed as 5046 S. Greenwood, 3 others are.
Actually, yes. They are.If you look at the President’s tax returns, you will see that he is paying the property tax and the mortgage.

Property taxes in 2008 = $22,233, Mortgage Interest = $54,323
Property taxes in 2009 = $22,456, Mortgage interest = $52,195

Of course, technically the Trust "owns" the house. Look for it at http://www.ccrd.info and key 10209 in the Trust Number Search. The transaction is the 18th document down from the top.

0535335180 MORTGAGE 12/19/2005 20-11-115-034-0000 NORTHERN TRUST CO TR NORTHERN TRUST CO
0517233011 MORTGAGE 06/21/2005 20-11-115-034-0000 NORTHERN TRUST CO TR NORTHERN TRUST CO
0515339067 ASSIGNMENT OF BENEFICIAL INT 06/02/2005 NORTHERN TRUST CO TR NORTHERN TRUST CO TR

That's how trusts are supposed to work.

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How many aliases does Obama have?
Other than Barack Hussein Obama? None.

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How many social security numbers has he used.
One.

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Who is Barry Soetoro?
The name under which his stepfather registered him for school in Indonesia. It was never a legal name of his, however, and he has never used it since leaving Indonesia at age 10.

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Why can't investigators find any evidence that a real person (with Obama's SS#) by the name of Harrison J Bounel ever existed?
Because they are incompetent.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I can't tell if this is a serious post or not. With the misspellings and such, who knows?
Poe's Law runs rampant with debating Birthers.
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Actually, yes. They are.If you look at the President’s tax returns, you will see that he is paying the property tax and the mortgage.

Property taxes in 2008 = $22,233, Mortgage Interest = $54,323
Property taxes in 2009 = $22,456, Mortgage interest = $52,195

Of course, technically the Trust "owns" the house. Look for it at http://www.ccrd.info and key 10209 in the Trust Number Search. The transaction is the 18th document down from the top.

0535335180 MORTGAGE 12/19/2005 20-11-115-034-0000 NORTHERN TRUST CO TR NORTHERN TRUST CO
0517233011 MORTGAGE 06/21/2005 20-11-115-034-0000 NORTHERN TRUST CO TR NORTHERN TRUST CO
0515339067 ASSIGNMENT OF BENEFICIAL INT 06/02/2005 NORTHERN TRUST CO TR NORTHERN TRUST CO TR

That's how trusts are supposed to work.


Other than Barack Hussein Obama? None.

One.


The name under which his stepfather registered him for school in Indonesia. It was never a legal name of his, however, and he has never used it since leaving Indonesia at age 10.


Because they are incompetent.
You are very clever Historian, and you are perpetrating a fraud.
There are numerous pin numbers associated with this address. You listed one, ending in 034-0000 held by Northern Trust, from the Recorder of Deeds.

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Rosslyn Whitlock, an Internet support specialist at the Cook County Recorder of Deeds, confirmed to WND that the office has no information listed for the Obama home under the PIN number 20-11-115-037-0000, the number used by the Cook County Assessor's office for property tax purposes.
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Records at the Cook County Recorder of Deeds list Rita Rezko as the holder of the warranty deed for the vacant lot at 5050 S. Greenwood adjoining the Obama mansion, under the PIN number 20-11-115-036-0000.

WND was able to locate warranty information at the Cook County Recorder of Deeds , which Herman at the County Assessor's office told WND was the "old PIN number" assigned to the Obama home at 5046 S. Greenwood Avenue, before the home was sold to Obama.

Neither spokesman could explain to WND the discrepancy in PIN numbers, nor why the Cook County Recorder of Deeds has no information filed under the new PIN number assigned to the property after the Obama purchase.

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"Obama has his own personal housing crisis that is tied not into Fanny Mae, but into a corrupt international financial combine headed by Nadhmi Auchi, the convicted Iraqi billionaire at the center of the Elf Aquitaine corruption trial in France. Auchi has been shown to be the fountainhead of a source of corruption flowing from Iraq, to France, Italy, and the United States. His financial network, under a Luxembourg company called General Mediterranean Holdings, spread from Baghdad and the Middle East to Paris, (where Auchi successfully posited Saddam’s UN Oil for Food scheme), London, Washington, and Chicago, making very few ripples and raising no concerns. " ...etc etc.,

See also commentator sbd re payment made by wiring of funds from Lebanon by Auchi - April 4, 2007, to a bank account (the “MMDA account”) held at Northern Trust by the law firm of Freeborn & Peters (”Freeborn”) received an incoming wire transfer of approximately $3,499,471 from a bank in Beirut, Lebanon. The originator of the wire transfer was identified as General Mediterranean Holdings, SA (”General Mediterranean”)... also the strange payment by Rezko (or indebtedness) of $1,675,000 which was curiously the purchase price of 5046 S. Greenwood, Chicago.
UK TOP SECRET Postman Patel: Obama's Mansion at 5046 S. Greenwood - who paid for it / Who owns it ? Who pays the taxes ? What land trust ?
tip of the iceburg. This requires a thorough investigation. We are way beyond a phony birth certificate now.
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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You are very clever Historian, and you are perpetrating a fraud.
Wrong again, ranger.

Your (and WND's) inability to understand the simplest details does not constitute a fraud on my part.

It's funny, though, that you're digging up smears from December 2008 that have long been debunked.

So much for the "Current Events" forum.

:lol:
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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The white one with a gold seal is not really a birth certificate. It's a souvenir.
Then why does the DMV ask for it, Social Sercurity.....when I took my kids for anything this is the certificate I had to show. It had to have the Gold Seal. If I took the hospital issued one,it doesn't pass.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Then why does the DMV ask for it, Social Sercurity.....when I took my kids for anything this is the certificate I had to show. It had to have the Gold Seal. If I took the hospital issued one,it doesn't pass.
I call bullsh*t. At this point you are merely lying through your teeth,
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:08 AM
 
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I think HistorianDude is actually Obama himself. He seems to know an awful lot about the man and his personal life and is also in this thread 24/7. Trying to protect something Barack?
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:11 AM
 
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"he" being Harrson J Bounel does not exist, but shares Obama's CT social security number.
Problem is that this debt collector was an Obama supporter, that even voted for him. He had no intention of stumbling across this information. It intrigued him, so he dug deeper. Now that this is getting out, he is afraid for his life, and wants to remain just Al.
Harrison J Bounel, Barry Soetoro, Barack Hussein Obama? | Boudica BPI Weblog
This is why they were diverting you and acting like you were just being a birther ...........these people are to in AHHH of President Obama, they can't see the corruption painted on the man's face.

Good find and you know, there is SO MUCH more!! Nothing to do with President Obama being a black man, he's a dishonest black man!!
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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I call bullsh*t. At this point you are merely lying through your teeth,
Lying, so that's what you call it .................... If you just had a kid complete drivers ed and you are going to the DMV for first time license. This is what you have to bring, The original birth certificate with the Gold Seal and your Social Security Card. Here from two states, I can find more if you need them.............................................. .............................

Missouri Department of Revenue | Documents for Driver/ Nondriver License & Instruction Permit
U.S. Birth Certificate - certified with an embossed, stamped or raised seal issued by a state or local government. (Hospital-issued birth certificates are not acceptable.)


South Dakota Department of Public Safety: Licensing: Driver Licensing
Certified U.S. birth certificate issued by state or county (hospital birth certificates are not acceptable)
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