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Old 06-07-2011, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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It is one of those handy "rules" of convenience.
There are prohibitions in House rules about using office equipment for campaigns but I can't find anything prohibiting using a phone for personal calls.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Syracuse IS Central New York.
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Weiner is sleazy, slimy, and probably just barely squirming by House ethics rules. But that's what a snake does.

Ultimately, the voters in his district will get to decide if he stays or goes.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I must note the prudishness of Americans. It's ok for a Congressman to lie about his plan that he says 'saves Medicare' when it actual destroys it but it's not ok to lie about an embarrassing photo sent during a private matter unrelated to running the government.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:08 AM
 
Location: High Cotton
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This is FAR from over. There's much, much more information that will come out that's far more damaging than what's been reported thus far.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Andrew Sullivan's view:
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"Weiner has not resigned and, frankly, I see little reason why he should. No one, so far as I can tell, was harrassed, no one was abused, no actual sex even took place at all. I'm not sure one can even find any hypocrisy here. Moreover, if online flirting is unforgivable, why isn't off-line flirting unforgivable? And what really is the difference? Apart from pictures that can be used to humiliate - and even blackmail.

Yes, I realize that one congressman recently swiftly resigned over a Craigslist shirtless pic, but that was a stupid response then and it remains a stupid thing now. It was and should have remained a matter between him and his spouse. Given the result of NY-26, maybe even the GOP is regretting its bout of puritanism now.

...I don't view this as a partisan matter - I find it impossible to condemn Larry Craig out of hand and feel for Ted Haggard. And they were clearly acting hypocritically. There was also a shred of public reason for their humiliation. I don't see any broader argument being invoked here, except partisan revenge.

Should Weiner have done this? For an elected public official, it was unwise, inappropriate, stupid. For a human being, it remains well within the bounds of, well, human.

Yes, he absolutely should not have lied. He should never have lied. But he has now also copped to his lies. It would take a particularly pitiless person to pile on some more. And I am grateful that even Andrew Breitbart seems to have drawn the line there."
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:17 AM
 
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Really? The women who are now linked to Wiener aren't being harassed by the news media now? Did they do something wrong other than being chosen by the Congressman? I guess what's important is analyzing only what a person's actions are, not the repercussions. And hey, why hold out elected representatives to higher standard, we all sext random strangers right?
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:23 AM
 
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I must note the prudishness of Americans. It's ok for a Congressman to lie about his plan that he says 'saves Medicare' when it actual destroys it but it's not ok to lie about an embarrassing photo sent during a private matter unrelated to running the government.
Can you believe the phoney outcry for justice in the name of morals from people that openly support the real culprits in goverment?
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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There are prohibitions in House rules about using office equipment for campaigns but I can't find anything prohibiting using a phone for personal calls.
Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the party leader, said she was "disappointed and saddened." She and other Democrats called for an ethics committee investigation to determine whether Weiner had broken any House rules.


seems the former speaker dis-agrees with your partisanship



Nor are fellow Democrats in Congress likely to take it well that Weiner lied to them, as well as to his wife and the public.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., defended Weiner a week ago, based on the congressman's assurances that he had not been involved in the photo sent via Twitter
However much lying may be invoked as a betrayal of trust, it also raises questions about what other damaging information may not yet be known.


btw it was a OFFICE ISSUED blackberry
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: London.
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I must note the prudishness of Americans. It's ok for a Congressman to lie about his plan that he says 'saves Medicare' when it actual destroys it but it's not ok to lie about an embarrassing photo sent during a private matter unrelated to running the government.
I'm with you on that one. But they could learn so much from Hugh Grant and his mea culpa. When you're busted you're busted, it's lying that is so damaging.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the party leader, said she was "disappointed and saddened." She and other Democrats called for an ethics committee investigation to determine whether Weiner had broken any House rules.


seems the former speaker dis-agrees with your partisanship

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btw it was a OFFICE ISSUED blackberry
House rules only prohibit government equipment from being used for campaign or partisan purposes.

If you notice your Pelosi statement, Pelosi is saying to open an ethics committee investigation to determine whether Weiner had broken any House rules. Pelosi isn't saying, as you are, that he had broken rules.

Going to a hearing isn't an indication of guilt. I have no problem opening an investigation.
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