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Old 06-06-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I believe the government should learn how to responsibly spend the people's money it steals from our incomes first. So far it's shown no evidence of being able to responsibly spend the 2.2 trillion in revenues it already receives. Where are these extra taxes going to go? The Israeli Army, starving pottery makers in Argentina, Brazilian oil exploration, subsidies to manure manufacturers in Kygyzstan? I could list more. These people can't even make a budget for themselves, yet you want to give them more money.

Most cries for tax increases typically come from jealous human beings envious of others' success. I say this because no one (generally on the left) can tell me WHY. Why should we raise them on the rich? So the government has more money to spend irresponsibly?

Maybe it would be better if these tax increases were used to reduce the debt, rather than more handouts to spread the wealth to jealous wannabes. Maybe then I'd listen.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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1. Tax revenues as a % of GDP is the lowest on record so no, 2.2T isnt enough
2. We can't be a imperial power and have low taxes. We need to get out of the middle east.
3. We need to tax the rich because they are the ones with the money
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:25 PM
 
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I believe the government should learn how to responsibly spend the people's money it steals from our incomes first. So far it's shown no evidence of being able to responsibly spend the 2.2 trillion in revenues it already receives. Where are these extra taxes going to go? The Israeli Army, starving pottery makers in Argentina, Brazilian oil exploration, subsidies to manure manufacturers in Kygyzstan? I could list more. These people can't even make a budget for themselves, yet you want to give them more money.

Most cries for tax increases typically come from jealous human beings envious of others' success. I say this because no one (generally on the left) can tell me WHY. Why should we raise them on the rich? So the government has more money to spend irresponsibly?

Maybe it would be better if these tax increases were used to reduce the debt, rather than more handouts to spread the wealth to jealous wannabes. Maybe then I'd listen.
America is the only place on earth where low income citizens are worrying how to protect the rich.
Disclosure: by nature the rich do not need others defense. They care for themselves quite successfully.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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1. Tax revenues as a % of GDP is the lowest on record so no, 2.2T isnt enough
2. We can't be a imperial power and have low taxes. We need to get out of the middle east.
3. We need to tax the rich because they are the ones with the money
OK. So maybe you should reread my post. You want more money so we can do what? What do you want to do with that extra money?
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:27 PM
 
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OK. So maybe you should reread my post. You want more money so we can do what? What do you want to do with that extra money?
Pay off the debt.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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dont tax anyone more

tax EVERYONE less and EQUALLY

get rid of the income tax

tax spending

Americans For Fair Taxation: Americans For Fair Taxation
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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America is the only place on earth where low income citizens are worrying how to protect the rich.
Disclosure: by nature the rich do not need others defense. They care for themselves quite successfully.

Define "rich". To the left, anyone who earns more than them is "rich" and anyone who earns "less" are the poor. The left are ALWAYS "middle class" in their mind.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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Pay off the debt.
Why should only the rich be responsible for paying off debt on programs that 90% of them don't even qualify to participate in?
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:31 PM
 
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Well my stance has always been eliminate the income tax completely and replace it with protective tariffs. That's what we did for the first one hundred years in this country and it worked out great. Why punish ANY American citizen in America for earning money? The idea that we confiscate any money at all from our own working citizens is immoral as hell. Make other countries who want to do business with us pay for our government.

If we have a war then we can institute a temporary tax but it must be a declared war that is justified and has specific goals. None of this Iraq and Libya quagmire crap.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Pay off the debt.
That's a good one.
Yeah, that's what they'll do.
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