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Are you actually claiming the time it occured somehow makes Vitter's behavior 'ethical' behavior for a Senator?
What a load of BS!
oh please are you saying what happened in the past really matters??
fine then clinton never should have been a potus...sexual harrasment in the past(illegal)
obama never should be potus...cocain usage (illegal)
bush never should have been potus .....awol (illegal)
the FACT that vitter did something in the early 1990's...well prior..... to when he was ELECTED until the 2004 elections...has NOTHING to do with him being or not being a senator...
Are you actually claiming the time it occured somehow makes Vitter's behavior 'ethical' behavior for a Senator?
What a load of BS!
Nope. Never said that and you know it. You are making a giant leap to a totally irrational conclusion. Cheating on your spouse is not "ethical" behavior. (There, are you happy now?) Having confessed your indiscretions to your wife before they became public knowledge and received counseling for them IS "ethical behavior". Can you possibly understand that? (I won't bet the farm.)
Are you ever going to tell me why Lefties can so easily accept "unacceptable" behavior in their own yet turn so viciously on Republicans when caught doing the same thing? (I won't bet the farm on this one either.)
Here's the short list:
"Why do you self-serving lefties include on your list of "acceptable behaviors" those such as lying under oath (Bill Clinton), cheating on taxes (Charlie Rangel--not to mention half of Obama's original appointees), tweeting soft or hard core porn pictures to women you have never met (der Weiner), lying to the public (Clinton, Weiner) , cheating on your wife (Clinton) (unless she is dying of cancer), etc.?"
Nope. Never said that and you know it. You are making a giant leap to a totally irrational conclusion. Cheating on your spouse is not "ethical" behavior. (There, are you happy now?) Having confessed your indiscretions to your wife before they became public knowledge and received counseling for them IS "ethical behavior". Can you possibly understand that? (I won't bet the farm.)
Are you ever going to tell me why Lefties can so easily accept "unacceptable" behavior in their own yet turn so viciously on Republicans when caught doing the same thing? (I won't bet the farm on this one either.)
Here's the short list:
"Why do you self-serving lefties include on your list of "acceptable behaviors" those such as lying under oath (Bill Clinton), cheating on taxes (Charlie Rangel--not to mention half of Obama's original appointees), tweeting soft or hard core porn pictures to women you have never met (der Weiner), lying to the public (Clinton, Weiner) , cheating on your wife (Clinton) (unless she is dying of cancer), etc.?"
Wearing diapers while visiting a high-classed whorehouse is equally as repugnant as sex-texting naked pictures of yourself to women you met on line. I don't get how Republicans can claim one guy's actions were any more moral or acceptable than the other. You are excusing Vitter because he got counseling which I could buy IF you hadn't been so vocal about Wiener's chances of redemption through therapy. "Once a pervert, always a pervert" is the mindset you've exhibited in all these threads on Wiener, over and over again. Fry the guy and throw him away. Fine. But don't fool yourself into thinking Democrats are any more "self-serving" in what we find "acceptable behavior" than Republicans. When one of your own gets caught in a scandal all they have to do is have a "Come to Jesus" moment and all is forgiven, and all a Democrat has to do to overcome their scandal is to have a "come to psychotherapy moment" to be forgiven. We might all be singing a different song but we're all singing in the same choir.
Wearing diapers while visiting a high-classed whorehouse is equally as repugnant as sex-texting naked pictures of yourself to women you met on line. I don't get how Republicans can claim one guy's actions were any more moral or acceptable than the other. You are excusing Vitter because he got counseling which I could buy IF you hadn't been so vocal about Wiener's chances of redemption through therapy. "Once a pervert, always a pervert" is the mindset you've exhibited in all these threads on Wiener, over and over again. Fry the guy and throw him away. Fine. But don't fool yourself into thinking Democrats are any more "self-serving" in what we find "acceptable behavior" than Republicans. When one of your own gets caught in a scandal all they have to do is have a "Come to Jesus" moment and all is forgiven, and all a Democrat has to do to overcome their scandal is to have a "come to psychotherapy moment" to be forgiven. We might all be singing a different song but we're all singing in the same choir.
again you are not seeing the forest through the trees
the FACTS are it doent matter about the affair (it doesnt matter if its diapers, spanking, gay, bi, plain old cheating, cigars, call girls, paiges) its a PRIVATE MATTER between him and his wife and the 'otherwoman'
what matters is that vitter did NOT break the law while IN OFFICE...
weiner on the other hand was LYING to the public..LYING to his constituants (who he is supposed to represent)...LYING to his democrat peers (schumer was his mentor, and was very supportive UNTIL he lied)...and making FALSE accusations of a FEDERAL CRIME (hacking).... while in office
had weiner sexted, then said "hey, me am my wife have an open relationship" then NOTHING would be said..................but NO....................he came out in PUBLIC, and LIED and not only LIED, but made FALSE ACCUSATIONS pertaining to a FEDERAL CRIME
again you are not seeing the forest through the trees
the FACTS are it doent matter about the affair (it doesnt matter if its diapers, spanking, gay, bi, plain old cheating, cigars, call girls, paiges) its a PRIVATE MATTER between him and his wife and the 'otherwoman'
what matters is that vitter did NOT break the law while IN OFFICE...
weiner on the other hand was LYING to the public..LYING to his constituants (who he is supposed to represent)...LYING to his democrat peers (schumer was his mentor, and was very supportive UNTIL he lied)...and making FALSE accusations of a FEDERAL CRIME (hacking).... while in office
had weiner sexted, then said "hey, me am my wife have an open relationship" then NOTHING would be said..................but NO....................he came out in PUBLIC, and LIED and not only LIED, but made FALSE ACCUSATIONS pertaining to a FEDERAL CRIME
Not true. If he hadn't lied from day one the press and the tabloids would have just kept digging until all the dirty details were out and end result would have been the same as it is now. It just would have taken longer.
Last edited by Wayland Woman; 06-17-2011 at 11:07 AM..
Ah, another apologist for a righty law breaker. Turning a blind-eye is what the right does best
When lefties you go after Clinton, Frank, Studs and some of the other dems you MIGHT have some credibility. Until then you keep trying to move the goalposts.
Not true. If he hadn't lied from day one the press and the tabloid would have just kept digging until all the dirty details were out and end result would have been the same as it is now. It just would have taken longer.
oh please
we (the people) could care less if he sexted.. or cheated..or was seeing a call girl (as spitzer did on GOVERNMENT FUNDS)....as the liberals say when taking about bill clinton "it was just a BloJo"
but weiner (same as clinton)..instead of BEING A MAN..he wussed out and lied..and not only lied but made FALSE ACCUSATIONS pertaining to a FEDERAL CRIME (of hacking)
Wearing diapers while visiting a high-classed whorehouse is equally as repugnant as sex-texting naked pictures of yourself to women you met on line. I don't get how Republicans can claim one guy's actions were any more moral or acceptable than the other. You are excusing Vitter because he got counseling which I could buy IF you hadn't been so vocal about Wiener's chances of redemption through therapy. "Once a pervert, always a pervert" is the mindset you've exhibited in all these threads on Wiener, over and over again. Fry the guy and throw him away. Fine. But don't fool yourself into thinking Democrats are any more "self-serving" in what we find "acceptable behavior" than Republicans. When one of your own gets caught in a scandal all they have to do is have a "Come to Jesus" moment and all is forgiven, and all a Democrat has to do to overcome their scandal is to have a "come to psychotherapy moment" to be forgiven. We might all be singing a different song but we're all singing in the same choir.
Wearing diapers is pretty kinky, yes, but at least that was done in private--as were the encounters with prostitutes. I have no issue with what consenting adults do in private as long as both are agreeable to it and no one is being hurt. (Talking about the general public here.) Not saying I necessarily endorse prostitution either but I don't have a big issue with it. A person in a position of public trust, married or not, repeatedly sending unsolicited and sexually explicit pictures of him or herself to someone met online is in another category, i.e. narcissism and exhibitionism both of which are personality and/or sexual disorders and places oneself in a more precarious position in that 1) there is no way it can be known for sure who these online acquaintances really are and 2) or what they will do with the information once they have it. Blackmail becomes a real possibility and the person has the physical evidence to use as a weapon.
I don't know where you got it that I had railed on about Weiner not being redeemable with therapy. I never said that. I do believe that people can turn their lives around and I have seen it happen a number of times in my lifetime. I give Vitter extra credit for having apparently straightened out his own life before his indiscretions became public knowledge. If Weiner can do the same, I will give him credit, as well. I hope, for the sake of his wife and child, that he will be able to put this chapter in his life behind him. Perhaps the public exposure of his indiscretions will motivate him to grow up and be a responsible husband and father.
I have repeatedly said that people in positions of public trust have a greater responsibility to conduct their private lives in such a manner that it will cause little or no embarrassment to them or their families or there will be serious consequences if/when those "private moments" see the light of day.
Not true. If he hadn't lied from day one the press and the tabloid would have just kept digging until all the dirty details were out and end result would have been the same as it is now. It just would have taken longer.
BINGO. You finally get it, a little. HE LIED, over and over and over and accused someone else of hacking his accounts. (I expect charges to be filed for slander)
You have been told too many times to mention most of us don't care what he did. It is about what he did AFTER he was found out.
As far as Vitter goes, what he did was way before he was a Senator. He owned up to it and sought forgiveness. He was NOT a Senator at the time. If we dumped every politician that ever crossed a line in their youth, we would never elect anyone.
Most on the left forgave Ted Kennedy, John Kennedy, Clinton, Byrd, Rangel Studs (The dems in Congress gave him a standing ovation upon his return), Frank and a whole list of others but, you can't bring yourself to foregive something Vitter did many years ago.
IF Vitter had done his things as a Senator I would be calling for his resignation also.
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