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Old 06-13-2011, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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In the third attempt to legalize Gay Marriage in New York, it finally seems to be gaining steam in the State Senate where it has previously failed. In 07 & 09 it passed the Assembly easily and had support of the Governor, but failed in the State Senate.

In 2007, the Republican leader of the Senate refused to bring it up for a vote, Dems gained a slim majority of 32-30 following the 2008 Elections, and a vote was held, however it failed 24-38. Democrats voted in favor 24-8, Republicans all voted against it.

Last year the GOP regained a slight majority in the Senate (32-30). The current Senate Majority leader has said while he is against it he will not block a vote.

The Democrats support the bill in larger numbers than they did in 2009, as all but one have come out in support (its a mix of those no longer being in the Senate, including two Primary losses, as well as three who voted against it in 09 and now back it). James Alessi a Republican who voted no in 2009 has also come out in support. That gives the Senate 30 of the 32 votes needed to pass the bill. Reports have put anywhere between four to six Republicans as on the fence.


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Old 06-13-2011, 05:32 PM
 
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Three more Democrats and one Republican announced support today. We only need 2 more Republicans and same-sex marriage will be legal here. Never thought I'd see the day when New York was 2 votes away from passing same-sex marriage. I am cautiously optimistic this will happen by the end of the week.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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I also want to point out this bill would be a terrific form of economic stimulus for the state. it's estimated that it would add 200 million dollars to New York's economy over the next three years if enacted.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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It's not going to happen. The Yes's will switch once their constituents get wind of the betrayal. Happened here in MD. The outcry was deafening.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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It's not a betrayal... The majority of voters approves of this law. It is more of a betrayal not to do it.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Republican Senator Jim Alesi is predicting the vote on Gay marriage to pass with 35 votes.

Alesi: Gay Marriage Passes With 35 Votes

So far the bill has 30 of the 32 votes needed for passage (29 of the 30 Democrats in the chamber support it and one Republican, Alesi), several Republicans who were previously against it remain undecided, and it looks like another one has gone from the no to undecided camp.

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"If I take the Catholic out of me, which is hard to do, then absolutely they should have these rights," Grisanti said this morning in an interview.

Has his position gone from no to the fence-sitting category?

"If you want to put me there," he responded.
Grisanti is now undecided on gay marriage - Albany - The Buffalo News (http://www.buffalonews.com/city/capital-connection/albany/article454429.ece - broken link)
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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Grisanti needs to understand DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE.
Morally, you can disagree with yout. 100% absolutely.
Legally, the church has absolutely NO say in this matter.

(with the exception of them not allowing them to marry in churches. I support the church's right for that)
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Grisanti needs to understand DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE.
Morally, you can disagree with yout. 100% absolutely.
Legally, the church has absolutely NO say in this matter.

(with the exception of them not allowing them to marry in churches. I support the church's right for that)
Agreed, thankfully it seems he could be moving more in that direction. Regardless its good to see another previous no voter (well in his case he wasn't in the Senate in 09, but someone who previously said no) moving into the undecided category. This really does look like its going to pass.
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:41 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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It's not going to happen. The Yes's will switch once their constituents get wind of the betrayal. Happened here in MD. The outcry was deafening.
Maryland is a highly black populated state, a group that really hates out on gays.
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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It's not going to happen.
Classic case of denial: "It's not going to happen!", even when it's happening right before your eyes.
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