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View Poll Results: Is America still a free country?
Yes 36 32.43%
No 67 60.36%
Not sure 8 7.21%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-23-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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Is America still a free country? Pretty straight forward question.
in general, yes.

too many people confuse 'freedom' with 'anarchy'-- I think that's why there's so much negativity on the subject.

 
Old 06-23-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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in general, yes.

too many people confuse 'freedom' with 'anarchy'-- I think that's why there's so much negativity on the subject.
I am free to ask the government for permission to do xxx.
I can see how that is true freedom.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 11:56 AM
 
Location: PA
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When a president and congress can spend more money then they have. Enslave a generation to the expenses of war, welfare and government power, then America is not free. When our government can ignore the bill of rights for poltiical and or idealogy based on less freedom for the individual we are not free. When government has set up free speech zones in America, America is not free. When you are taxed to support failed government policy and have dependancy on china for money, and arab nations for your oil you are not a free nation. When individual rights and citizen tax payers are put on the hook for corporate baiouts and government secret back room deals America is not free. You are free as long as you obey their rules of lobbying and corruption while supported by fake money and banks who use your labor to make them rich on interest on the debit.

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Old 06-23-2011, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Tia 914 View Post
in general, yes.

too many people confuse 'freedom' with 'anarchy'-- I think that's why there's so much negativity on the subject.

I don't think anybody confuses freedom with anarchy. Anarchy is the absence of government. I've never heard anyone advocate an absence of government.
 
Old 06-28-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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Is America still a free country? Pretty straight forward question.
It is not that straight forward. There are many things to take into account before answering a question such as that.
 
Old 06-28-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by JohKnip View Post
Is America still a free country? Pretty straight forward question.

Yes. As straight forward as I can get.
 
Old 06-28-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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Less and less so, our freedoms are being eroded - fascism is creeping in.
 
Old 06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Italy
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I don't think anybody confuses freedom with anarchy. Anarchy is the absence of government. I've never heard anyone advocate an absence of government.
If you know right from wrong, what government do you need??

The power of government is based on physical violence. -Leo Tolstoy


Peace,
brian
 
Old 07-06-2011, 01:32 AM
 
Location: County Mayo Descendant
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I'll start with two simple ones. The IRS (16th amendment),
and the present prohibition on industrial hemp. It makes it virtually impossible for me to be an industrial hemp farmer.

Next.....
Yep, I think Hearst and Dupont & one of our presidents had to do with that, I posted it somewhere here on CD with a link.
 
Old 07-06-2011, 02:57 AM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Not until we end the stupid "war on drugs"
Why end with the "War on Drugs"?
How about the War on

- terror
- illiteracy
- poverty
- Iraq
- fill in the blank

the government manufactures a crisis then confiscates resources to expand federal power to combat it. And "we the people" line up and cheer.
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