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Old 06-25-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Here is a short, concise lesson civics that many here need to read if they can get the link opened.

B-b-b-but it's his fault - Smart Girl Politics
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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You will get very few dems to respond.
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Here is a short, concise lesson civics that many here need to read if they can get the link opened.

B-b-b-but it's his fault - Smart Girl Politics
THAT was suppsed to be informative, looked liked nothing more than the sam old Right-wing BS to me, means opened and read it ROY, not wrth further comment. By the way, do you ever start threads that do NOT have a link to a right-wing web site or talking head that you want to get others to watch and believe, I think NOT.
Casper
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:09 PM
 
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Here is a short, concise lesson civics that many here need to read if they can get the link opened.

B-b-b-but it's his fault - Smart Girl Politics
If you're unable to present an argument on your own, I'm not interested in your taunts.
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: California
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You should get help for that stutter.
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Anyone who feel that the current economic issues aren't tied to 8 years of Republican lead politics and the Bush administration, simply aren't living in the realm in reality.

I think everyone knows when the economy started going in the tank, and it wasn't in 2009.
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:12 PM
 
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Congress can control spending but they do NOT have the power to end wars. The power only lies with the president. The Democrats only could have de-funded the wars, which was not a serious option. Bush got us in to both Iraq and Afghanistan while LOWERING taxes. I'm not trying to say we shouldn't have been in Afghanistan but it didn't need to be accompanied by a tax cut. Lowering taxes while increasing spending is going to get you a deficit.

What you are saying is essentially true roy, but it is also twisting the truth at the same time.
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:21 PM
 
Location: NC
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Here is a short, concise lesson civics that many here need to read if they can get the link opened.

B-b-b-but it's his fault - Smart Girl Politics
Roy,

He is right on Congress writing the budget, but remember the President has to sign it; therefore they have to compromise on his requests and what they pass in Congress.

Secondly, those numbers are not entirely accurate for the Bush era. Remember, they did NOT include the cost of the Iraq/Afghan wars in the budget. If you add those numbers in the total, the addition to our national deficit would be much larger.

Rest of the increase can be argued over ideological grounds since those were recession years (stimilus/TARP spending vs. we shouldn't have) and are valid, but are not just arbitrary spending increase (e.g. they had their reasons).
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Old 06-25-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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THAT was suppsed to be informative, looked liked nothing more than the sam old Right-wing BS to me, means opened and read it ROY, not wrth further comment. By the way, do you ever start threads that do NOT have a link to a right-wing web site or talking head that you want to get others to watch and believe, I think NOT.
Casper
Then someone must be ignorant here.

Is it Congress or the President who does the budget?
If Democrats are in control of the budget, why would you hold the Populist Bush accountable for them?

Maybe no left wing website does research into matters of fact, perhaps only fiction can justify their behavior.
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Old 06-25-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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Then someone must be ignorant here.

Is it Congress or the President who does the budget?
If Democrats are in control of the budget, why would you hold the Populist Bush accountable for them?

Maybe no left wing website does research into matters of fact, perhaps only fiction can justify their behavior.
Don't confuse the left,....their minds are made up so FACTS don't matter.

It's much simpler to attack the OP or the source than to defend the incompetent one in the Oval Office, his circle of unapproved czars, and the bunch of crooks in the cabinet. The same tactics from the loonie left is wearing thin: attack EVERYONE but leave the empty-suit in the White House alone.
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