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Old 06-27-2011, 12:05 PM
 
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Your employer shouldn't feel he has to offer you health insurance any more than he does car insurance.
Exactly right. What does health insurance have to do with your place of employment? Employers offer this as a BENEFIT to entice you to work for them when there is a labor shortage. No shortage exists so I can see employers dropping MOST benefits except the ones required by law. It makes perfect economic sense.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If they aren't going to offer HC, then they need to raise people's pay because whenever you get hired HR tells you:
"we only pay this amount in wages because your HC is counted as part of your salary".
That is not how a typical HR works, or is supposed to work. Benefits are separate from your salary.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:09 PM
 
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Exactly right. What does health insurance have to do with your place of employment? Employers offer this as a BENEFIT to entice you to work for them when there is a labor shortage. No shortage exists so I can see employers dropping MOST benefits except the ones required by law. It makes perfect economic sense.
No no no! You don't get it! In the US, all benefits are rights! Just like privileges! ::sarcasm::
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:11 PM
 
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That is not how a typical HR works, or is supposed to work. Benefits are separate from your salary.
That's what they tell you, so the tables need to be turned if they pull this stunt that the Obama administration was hoping for.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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That is not how a typical HR works, or is supposed to work. Benefits are separate from your salary.

Employers will pay you a lower than market salary, but will include a premium benefit package. They call this your "overall compensation" to make you think you are getting more than you really are.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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Employers will pay you a lower than market salary, but will include a premium benefit package. They call this your "overall compensation" to make you think you are getting more than you really are.
Exactly right!
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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Employers will pay you a lower than market salary, but will include a premium benefit package. They call this your "overall compensation" to make you think you are getting more than you really are.
Nothing wrong with this really.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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That's what they tell you, so the tables need to be turned if they pull this stunt that the Obama administration was hoping for.
If you're desperately trying to stay "on topic", perhaps you should check the dates on the articles the OP conveniently ignored... but then, this was designed to be a thread to troll, no?

Now, if you want to argue that benefits are counted as income, and advertised by HR as income, be my guest.

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Employers will pay you a lower than market salary, but will include a premium benefit package. They call this your "overall compensation" to make you think you are getting more than you really are.
Usually, that will happen. However your benefits are NOT counted as your income, and can be taken away at any time (how many employers still offer pension plans?). I don't think anybody would claim that their income was increasing by at least 10% when health insurance cost to employers increased at that pace through out the 2000s.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They'll all jump on the obamacare wagon..serving America..one unemployed or benefit-less person at a time
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