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Old 07-01-2011, 09:51 AM
 
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Sure, sure, sure...

Atheists just LOVE islam and are eager to protect it.

They've obviously never stepped a foot over in the religion forum.

 
Old 07-01-2011, 09:52 AM
 
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"It is a habit they picked up in Israel...."

Bigotry is a nasty habit, sterpetron, you might want to work on breaking that one.
LOL, calling me a racist against jews is hilarious - there is no bigger supporter of israel on this forum than i am.

Here are the links:

Kiryas Joel, New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Reverberations of a Baby Boom - New York Times

"Most families have only one income and many children. The resulting poverty rate makes a disproportionate number of families in Kiryas Joel eligible for welfare benefits when compared to the rest of the county; and cost of welfare benefits is subsidized by taxes paid county-wide."
 
Old 07-01-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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LOL, calling me a racist against jews is hilarious - there is no bigger supporter of israel on this forum than i am.

Here are the links:

Kiryas Joel, New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Reverberations of a Baby Boom - New York Times

"Most families have only one income and many children. The resulting poverty rate makes a disproportionate number of families in Kiryas Joel eligible for welfare benefits when compared to the rest of the county; and cost of welfare benefits is subsidized by taxes paid county-wide."
"It's a habit they picked up in Israel...."

Your words, not mine.
 
Old 07-01-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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Wait...so the left hates religion, but peculiarly we have allied with Islam in their plan o turn America into a theocracy so that we can undermine the hold of all other non-Islamic religions? I'm not even going to analyze the mental contortions required to arrive at such a conclusion.
FrontPage Magazine - March Marching

"Most of the listed organizations, we can assume from nearly a century of Communist Party front group activity, are little more than a handful of radicals who printed their own letterhead to create several noble-sounding organizations. But even so, look at what is scheduled to march Saturday under ANSWER’s red banner.

More than any other cause, 22 nominally pro-Muslim and/or anti-Israel groups sit prominently near the top of this endorser list. These include the San Francisco group QUIT! (*****s Undermining Israeli Terrorism), the Palestine Right to Return Coalition (Al Awda), the Palestinian Solidarity Committee and the Free Palestine Alliance..."
 
Old 07-01-2011, 10:05 AM
 
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The article draws a false contrast between the treatment of Ahmadinejad and the Israeli ambassador at US college campuses, and uses it to advance the assertion that the Left (since university students are all Leftists ) loves Islam at the expense of Israel, and it's a purposeful alliance. But the facts are:

Ahmadinejad was allowed to speak at a US university.
The Israeli ambassador was allowed to speak at a US university.

Ahmadinejad was heckled and booed at a US university.
The Israeli ambassador was heckled and booed at a US university.

Ahmadinejad received some applause at a US university.
The Israeli ambassador received some applause at a US university.
The War on Campus :: Daniel Pipes

"The police, saying they couldn't assure Netanyahu's safety, canceled the event. To which Wassim Moukahhal, an Arab leader at nearby McGill University, crowed: "The man is a war criminal. We don't want our city and our universities to be the harbor of such a war criminal."

Nor was this the first time Netanyahu has been prevented from speaking on campus. In November 2000, "hundreds of raucous protesters" managed to cancel his appearance at the University of California/Berkeley.

On Thursday, Hanan Ashrawi, the former spokeswoman and colleague of Yasser Arafat, went to Colorado College in Colorado Springs to give a keynote speech at a symposium on "September 11: One Year Later."

Protestors noted that Ashrawi is smack on the side of America's enemies in the War on Terrorism. For example, while the U.S. government formally designates Hamas a terrorist group, Ashrawi states she doesn't "think of Hamas as a terrorist group." Also, she considers Israeli civilians living on the West Bank to be "legitimate . . . targets of Palestinian resistance" - that is, legitimate targets for deadly violence.

But she did speak, without any interference. The protests were completely non-violent, including nothing more than scattered boos, hand-held signs and a rebuttal after the speech (given by this writer)."
 
Old 07-01-2011, 10:07 AM
 
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Prognostications can be interesting, but it's still just fortune-telling.
Jewish Dems Start to Abandon Obama « Commentary Magazine

"It takes a lot to pry most American Jews away from their traditional loyalty to the Democratic Party. But give Barack Obama credit. In just two and a half years in office, he has managed to achieve just that. Though the rumblings about Jewish unhappiness with the president’s policy of pressure against Israel have been getting more noticeable with each fight the administration picks with the Jewish state, the last month has been the worst yet. And, as Politico reports today, the cracks in the heretofore solidly partisan wall of Jewish support for the Democrats are starting to widen.

The Politico feature largely concentrates on interviews done with Jewish Dems in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, and what Ben Smith heard can’t be encouraging for Obama supporters. Fundraising is being affected with even those organizing pro-Obama events admitting to Politico they won’t meet their goals. The open talk of defection to the Republicans next year is getting loud enough that even the most rabidly partisan Democrats have been forced to take notice. Though they claim most Jews will never vote for a Republican, the dissatisfaction with Obama is no longer confined to the right. Even liberal Jews are starting to question why the president seems more inclined to get tough with America’s ally than with foes such as Syria."
 
Old 07-01-2011, 10:09 AM
 
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This is why US liberals/progressives/Democrats go out of their way to protect Islam while trashing other religions, particularly harmless Christians of the Red State kind: they want to destroy America as much as radical Islam does-

Is Obama Making His Next Career Move?
The Left is atheist, and has been since Karl Marx. It always harbors bitter hatred against traditional Christianity (and Orthodox Judaism). Radical Muslims want the whole world to obey Shari'ah law. The True Believers of the Left don't believe a word in traditional Islam, just like they don't believe a word about Christianity, Judaism, or, for that matter, Buddhism and Hinduism. They are thorough-going atheists.

And yet the Left is constantly pretending to know nothing about Islam, and Muslims are always pretending to ignore the atheistic faith of the left. But that's just the usual barefaced denial. They both know everything there is to know about each other.

Since 1900 there have been plenty of Communists in the Muslim world and plenty of Muslims in the Communist and socialist world. They talk to each other all the time, and they make political deals. It's happening on some American college campuses today, which is why Ahmadinejad can speak at Columbia but the Israeli ambassador is heckled and booed whenever he speaks on a campus. These are not accidents.

Ordinary liberals may be suckered about Islam, but the radical Left isn't. They know they are making a pact with the Devil. So do the radical Muslims. Both sides believe they will end up trying to destroy each other in the end. But they have a bigger common enemy: Us.
Troll thread. Some of these threads are just so ridiculous.
 
Old 07-01-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Jewish Dems Start to Abandon Obama « Commentary Magazine

"It takes a lot to pry most American Jews away from their traditional loyalty to the Democratic Party. But give Barack Obama credit. In just two and a half years in office, he has managed to achieve just that. Though the rumblings about Jewish unhappiness with the president’s policy of pressure against Israel have been getting more noticeable with each fight the administration picks with the Jewish state, the last month has been the worst yet. And, as Politico reports today, the cracks in the heretofore solidly partisan wall of Jewish support for the Democrats are starting to widen.

The Politico feature largely concentrates on interviews done with Jewish Dems in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, and what Ben Smith heard can’t be encouraging for Obama supporters. Fundraising is being affected with even those organizing pro-Obama events admitting to Politico they won’t meet their goals. The open talk of defection to the Republicans next year is getting loud enough that even the most rabidly partisan Democrats have been forced to take notice. Though they claim most Jews will never vote for a Republican, the dissatisfaction with Obama is no longer confined to the right. Even liberal Jews are starting to question why the president seems more inclined to get tough with America’s ally than with foes such as Syria."
See highlight. Your statement that I referred to politely as an interesting prognostication is just that, a prognostication. When the dust settles in 2012, we'll know just how good you are at fortune-telling.
 
Old 07-01-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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"It's a habit they picked up in Israel...."

Your words, not mine.
Try reading the WHOLE articles. Many of the town's residents adhere to a complete focus on torah study while collecting welfare - acting as a professional, permanent student.

This is a method of existence that ben-gurion initiated for 400 jews in israel after WW2 to try and re-create the yeshivas and institutions lost in the holocaust. It is a lifestyle created in israel, and introduced to the US recently.

For thousands of years jews who studied torah also knew the importance of having a separate job to support their family. The idea of living off the state while studying is a recent one born in israel, and transferred here to the US.

I am not passing judgement on it, simply stating the facts.
 
Old 07-01-2011, 10:17 AM
 
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Try reading the WHOLE articles. Many of the town's residents adhere to a complete focus on torah study while collecting welfare - acting as a professional, permanent student.

This is a method of existence that ben-gurion initiated for 400 jews in israel after WW2 to try and re-create the yeshivas and institutions lost in the holocaust. It is a lifestyle created in israel, and introduced to the US recently.

For thousands of years jews who studied torah also knew the importance of having a separate job to support their family. The idea of living off the state while studying is a recent one born in israel, and transferred here to the US.

I am not passing judgement on it, simply stating the facts.
It's one town.

And you made the judgmental remark. "It is a habit they picked up is Israel." From the context of your posts, it's clear you see that habit as a bad habit. Ergo, your statement was judgmental.
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