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Old 07-07-2011, 09:42 PM
 
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That's trillion with a T. Where do they think all this money will come from. Take a guess the evil developing countries. When will this insanity end.

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Two years ago, U.N. researchers were claiming that it would cost “as much as $600 billion a year over the next decade” to go green. Now, a new U.N. report has more than tripled that number to $1.9 trillion per year for 40 years.
So let's do the math: That works out to a grand total of $76 trillion, over 40 years -- or more than five times the entire Gross [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]Domestic [COLOR=blue !important]Product[/color][/color][/color] of the United States ($14.66 trillion a year). It’s all part of a “technological overhaul” “on the scale of the first industrial revolution” called for in the annual report. Except that the U.N. will apparently control this next industrial revolution.

The new 251-page report with the benign sounding name of the “World Economic and Social Survey 2011” is rife with goodies calling for “a radically new economic strategy” and “global governance.”
Throw in possible national energy use caps and a massive redistribution of wealth and the [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]survey[/color][/color] is trying to remake the entire globe. The report has the imprimatur of the U.N., with the preface signed by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon – all part of the “goal of full decarbonization of the global energy system by 2050.”
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:47 PM
 
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Please vote for Ron Paul 2012. We don't need this UN (insert explitive here)!
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:49 PM
 
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I'd like to see Paul made secretary of the treasury and put himself in the unemployment line.
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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Unfortunately, "green" technology costs between 7X and 100X as much as traditional technology. Given the incredible debt already racked up by an insane government, the current collapse of our economy, and the destruction of the Middle Class, I don't think America is in any position to waste any more money chasing dreams that are decades away from being feasible.

We have to worry about simply surviving as a nation under the enormous burdens of Big Government, criminal Big Business, and the destruction of our Middle Class and economic engines like manufacturing.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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The world will be decarbonized by one means or by another. The supplies of coal, oil and gas are finite and today only a small fraction of a growing worlds people use the bulk of those fuels. Our use of these fuels is growing and through the miracle of compounding demand the supply will have to double and redouble at an accelerating pace. We will run out of supply sometime in the next century and hence will be decarbonized. This should be a given and the only question is what kind of world do we find in the year 2100? Will it be a world where we have alternatives and sustainable energy sources or will it be the world as our tomb -- a world where our burned out ruins are a monument to our lack of imagination, wisdom and humanity. We have a choice still.
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Old 07-08-2011, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Being that the United Nations hasn't actually got jurisdiction over any sovereign nations, their facts and figures are basically just a lot of game playing, aren't they? It's not as if they're going to impose a decision on the planet.

Alternatively, of course, we could wipe ourselves out as a species in a nuclear war. And then the planet could go green over the coming centuries without our interference (and at no financial burden to any potential surviving species).
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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The world will be decarbonized by one means or by another. The supplies of coal, oil and gas are finite and today only a small fraction of a growing worlds people use the bulk of those fuels. Our use of these fuels is growing and through the miracle of compounding demand the supply will have to double and redouble at an accelerating pace. We will run out of supply sometime in the next century and hence will be decarbonized. This should be a given and the only question is what kind of world do we find in the year 2100? Will it be a world where we have alternatives and sustainable energy sources or will it be the world as our tomb -- a world where our burned out ruins are a monument to our lack of imagination, wisdom and humanity. We have a choice still.
the only viable soloution is nuclear power and maybe if the DEMO fusion plant by the as bult date of 2020 and is a success we replace fisson and that will solve energy problems for centuries seeing as.. Deuterium, also called heavy hydrogen, is one of two stable isotopes of hydrogen with a natural abundance in Earth's oceans Deuterium and is great fusion fuel. also since nuclear agood sie effect be it fission or fusion is it create potable drinking water so it could solve future freah water problems create it's own renewable fuel and would solve all of our energy needs for thousands of years. plus fusion has to be done in a perfect environment or it stops right away on it's own so no more meltdowns and radio active fallouts.

it solves every possible argument against it an the only thing it vents out is steam and over time as costs come down we could build them around world.

then we get back into the space race and move beyond earth then we become a type I civilization and if we want to contiue to grow by the billions in the next century we need another planet like mars to terraform and colonize

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Old 07-08-2011, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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That's trillion with a T. Where do they think all this money will come from. Take a guess the evil developing countries. When will this insanity end.

This is not new info. The AGW advocates have said that their goal is wealth transfer for quite some time.


The Copenhagen Climate Change Treaty Draft – wealth transfer defined, now with new and improved “dignity” penalty | Watts Up With That?
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:56 AM
 
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Proves how useless the UN is.
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And you do realize that the third world countries expect first world countries to pay for them to move into the future of "green".
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