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View Poll Results: Is world civilization on the verge?
Not just yes, but HELL YES! 30 46.15%
There is a threat but not imminent danger 11 16.92%
Nothing's impossible, but it doesn't look likely 13 20.00%
Seriously dude, lay off the tinfoil. Our greatest days are ahead of us. 11 16.92%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-16-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Today is worrisome, with facsists, corporatists, communists, out of control central bankers and economic depression worldwide, with uncertainty about the outcome. Now that IS scary!

YC.......
You beat me to it.

I would add that major corporations are todays "Nazis". Only they use window dressing to make their crimes seem less cruel then they really are.

I would use the new trend of companies to demand a picture with the resume as an example. They want only young, malleable, physically pleasing looking people under their rule. The older generation (the ones young enough to still be working. The retired have escaped and so they aren't as upset by this) is discriminated against in the workplace on a daily basis. They say it's a law that they can't discriminate but make it so loose that any "nazi" corp can find some other reason not to hire that person.

This is the number one reason my mother is working at Squal*mart (of all places) when she has 30+ years experience in computer programming. Well, that and her outsourcing. But that's a whole other thread.

Yes I feel like the world is growing more and more unstable. And the only time I watch the news is whenever I need a good laugh because I know that more then half of what they spew is lies anyway.
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Old 07-16-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Ten years ago the bottom fell out of my life and I learned there is nothing that is guarenteed. Since then I've not assumed, not in the personal sense or the larger one. Treasuer the good stuff incase it only happens once. I see things deteriorating and breaking down, and much anger and a feeling we are helpless. Too much of a police state is in the works. How soon will this all come together and change it all? I don't know. Also a history buff who thinks in terms of historical time over my time.

I think we're in a time like before Rome actually fell but when everyone could see it was cracking. Did it in their lifetimes, no, but they saw a world where stability was fading.

As to us, I hang onto my own and watch carefully. Sadly, caring about the BIG PICTURE is becoming something few really care about as we start accepting our own insecurity.
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Old 07-16-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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Mind control and electronic manipulation is at an all-time high. Systems and beliefs that were dependable are breaking down into manufactured fear and confusion. Massive change (a big step) is now necessary because opportunities for smaller steps toward growth were ignored.

The main reason we feel that things are off balance is because the need for growth is so imperative now that all the attempts to keep things looking like normal are failing. If there wasn't such a strong effort being made to force us to ignore the necessary changes, the sense of imbalance would be greatly diminished. With every change there is some form of chaos, a period of imbalance where things shift from one for to another or one place to another. But what will we change into? What is the future?

Those who are telling us to not pay any attention to the man behind the curtain want us to be so off-balance that when the future comes, we will be so disoriented, we won't have the ability to create the reality we want. They are hopeful that our weakened state will allow them to create the reality they want instead. It is a game of control where the opponent is brought to his knees so he has no ability to fight back. Except that the game is being manufactured. The opponent only gets weakened when he believes he can be weakened. His energy and strength are always there. He just has to recognize the effort being made to impose someone else's will onto his own. Once that betrayal is recognized and accepted, all power returns to the now former victim and reality is his for the asking.

I don't know where this came from, but it was probably partially channeled.
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Old 07-16-2011, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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There is a difference between sorting out a cottage that has fallen into disrepair (the 1930s) and living in a huge McMansion which looks fine from the outside but is about to collapse, crushing every living thing in it, (the present).

Brilliant metaphor. I suspect we will survive, though perhaps with a bit less hubris. That would be fine.

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Old 07-16-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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Does it matter? Even if the world were calm and serene, you are still going to die one day.
Others don't want to die or live a life of suffering, so that's why they have concern for the future. Is that such a difficult thing to understand or do you just live your life for the moment like an animal?
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Old 07-16-2011, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Mind control and electronic manipulation is at an all-time high. Systems and beliefs that were dependable are breaking down into manufactured fear and confusion. Massive change (a big step) is now necessary because opportunities for smaller steps toward growth were ignored.

The main reason we feel that things are off balance is because the need for growth is so imperative now that all the attempts to keep things looking like normal are failing. If there wasn't such a strong effort being made to force us to ignore the necessary changes, the sense of imbalance would be greatly diminished. With every change there is some form of chaos, a period of imbalance where things shift from one for to another or one place to another. But what will we change into? What is the future?

Those who are telling us to not pay any attention to the man behind the curtain want us to be so off-balance that when the future comes, we will be so disoriented, we won't have the ability to create the reality we want. They are hopeful that our weakened state will allow them to create the reality they want instead. It is a game of control where the opponent is brought to his knees so he has no ability to fight back. Except that the game is being manufactured. The opponent only gets weakened when he believes he can be weakened. His energy and strength are always there. He just has to recognize the effort being made to impose someone else's will onto his own. Once that betrayal is recognized and accepted, all power returns to the now former victim and reality is his for the asking.

I don't know where this came from, but it was probably partially channeled.
A bit complex,but surprisingly unparanoid.

I agree that guys crying on TV, like Falwell and Beck, want us to believe the end is nigh, but human grit and ingenuity have lifted us out of the Paleolithic to where we are today, a recession will not end the evolution. But mind control and duping people in to black and white, zero sum thinking has created a reactionary, spectacularly short-sighted political discourse these days. I hope you are right and the spell can be broken, and soon.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:01 PM
 
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I was born in the early 1960s. In my lifetime so far, there have been assassinations and major riots in the US, a US president resigned in disgrace, we left Vietnam without a victory, there were political killings all around the world, major drug cartels, organized crime with substantial influence and lethality, rise of the PLO, other groups like Red Brigades, Red Army Faction, FARC, Shining Path, Tamil Tigers, plus airline hijackings, wars on many continents, IRA killings and bombings, genocides, coups... on and on, and these are just the things off the top of my head I can recall. The more things change, the more they stay the same is my view. There never were "good old days" on a global scale.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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The media isnt telling you any where close to the full truth of whats really going on.

I've heard suicide rates are way up in the past couple years. I suspect some of those are likely those that have figured out whats really going on.

YC.......

Oh, are the rates going back to where they were in the 1950s?

Suicide Statistics at Suicide.org

Or perhaps the normal flux that goes along with the state of the economy?

Study: US Suicide Rate Rises, Falls With Economy
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'm not that old (33 yrs) but when I look at all that is going on in the world, I can't help but get a sickening feeling, like I'm standing on thin ice in the middle of lake afraid to move as the ice cracks and shifts all around me.

Anyone else? Does the media make it worse than it sounds or is our civilization really teetering on the edge of disaster?
Yes and no.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I don't think really any more then in the past. The thing is, there are more crazies running around, and that don't help our situation.
Agreed. Way more crazies, doing disturbing things. Im more concerned about running into a single dangerous person then a war, natural disaster etc. At least the latter is spread out and not targeting an individual.
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