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Old 12-29-2011, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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She may have died years ago, but her ideas continue to gain favor.

Genocidal Population Reduction Programs Embraced By Academia
One such individual who embraces the notion that humans are a virus that should be wiped out en masse for the good of mother earth is Dr. Eric R. Pianka, an American biologist based at the University of Texas in Austin.
During a speech to the Texas Academy of Science in March 2006, Pianka advocated the need to exterminate 90% of the world’s population through the airborne ebola virus. The reaction from scores of top scientists and professors in attendance was not one of shock or revulsion – they stood and applauded Pianka’s call for mass genocide.
Pianka’s speech was ordered to be kept off the record before it began as cameras were turned away and hundreds of students, scientists and professors sat in attendance.
Saying the public was not ready to hear the information presented, Pianka began by exclaiming, “We’re no better than bacteria!”, as he jumped into a doomsday malthusian rant about overpopulation destroying the earth.
Standing in front of a slide of human skulls, Pianka gleefully advocated airborne ebola as his preferred method of exterminating the necessary 90% of humans, choosing it over AIDS because of its faster kill period. Ebola victims suffer the most tortuous deaths imaginable as the virus kills by liquefying the internal organs. The body literally dissolves as the victim writhes in pain bleeding from every orifice.
Pianka then cited the Peak Oil fraud as another reason to initiate global genocide. “And the fossil fuels are running out,” he said, “so I think we may have to cut back to two billion, which would be about one-third as many people.”
Later, the scientist welcomed the potential devastation of the avian flu virus and spoke glowingly of China’s enforced one child policy, before zestfully commenting, “We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth.”
At the end of Pianka’s speech the audience erupted not to a chorus of boos and hisses but to a raucous reception of applause and cheers as audience members clambered to get close to the scientist to ask him follow up questions. Pianka was later presented with a distinguished scientist award by the Academy. Pianka is no crackpot. He has given lectures to prestigious universities worldwide.
http://www.newworldorderinfo.com/eug...as-99-percent/
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:34 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Abortion is just one issue and not all progressives are pro-choice.
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I don't know, I think that the racism of the progressive movement of the early 20th century deserves far more attention than it gets. It wasn't just Sanger; the racism was pervasive. It was based on cockamamie 'eugenics' theories that were all the rage in academia at the time..
Eugenics was widely supported by both "liberals" and "conservatives" in the early 20th century, its stupid to try to tar modern progressives as being eugenecists.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:36 AM
 
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You contradict yourself. You say you heard about it on CNN (a msm source) and then you say you won't hear about it on msm. Which is it?


They were reporting on the filing of lawsuits.

They never mentioned why the program started and by whom.

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Old 12-29-2011, 05:44 AM
 
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The disgusting truth about your attempt at an outrage thread:

Margaret Sanger died 45 years ago. Likely that was before you were born.
No, I was alive when she died.

So you believe that progressive history and the genesis of the eugenics program should be forgotten?

10's of thousands and perhaps 100's of thousands of American citizens were sterilized by the ideals of these people.

Believe me, had there been a conservative/religious element involved in it, they would be the story.

Funny how the left deflect their lunacy.

Go ahead....be proud progressives.
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:24 AM
 
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No, I was alive when she died.

So you believe that progressive history and the genesis of the eugenics program should be forgotten?

10's of thousands and perhaps 100's of thousands of American citizens were sterilized by the ideals of these people.

Believe me, had there been a conservative/religious element involved in it, they would be the story.

Funny how the left deflect their lunacy.

Go ahead....be proud progressives.
This is all just revisionist history. Was Margaret Sanger a racist? By today's standards, most certainly. But she was TYPICAL for her time. What wasn't TYPICAL was that she advocated giving women, ALL women, access to BIRTH CONTROL so that they could have a measure of control over their own reproductive health. The idea that WOMEN should be able to make decisions regarding sex and reproduction was quite radical for the times. This crap about eugenics is simply an attempt to malign the GOOD things she advocated for. Why would people want to malign her, because there are a lot of idiots out there who hate Planned Parenthood.

By all means, educate yourselves. Learn about the time period and the attitudes about race that were prevalent for that era in American history. Learn about the MANY prominent people that shared those attitudes. And then grow up, because the dichotomoy between good and evil is not clear cut.

Another person of that time period who was a proponent of eugenics, who embraced Hitler and his ideas, would be Charles Lindbergh. His racism doesn't make him evil. His support of fascism doesn't make his achievements less laudable.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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The disgusting truth about your attempt at an outrage thread:

Margaret Sanger died 45 years ago. Likely that was before you were born.
let me repeat the info for the slow of mind.....margaret sanger is DEAD
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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What's really creepy is the way Anita Dunn's comments are mischaracterized. Is the truth so scary? Mao Zedong was not only a dictator. He was a writer and philosopher, and it's quite possible to find things to admire in someone's writings without endorsing every aspect of their lives. I admire the Hemingway's writing style, his ability to bring to life complex and imperfect characters. It doesn't mean that I think alcoholism is something people should emulate. See how that works?
I agree that it doesn't have to be all-or-nothing with people...you can reject some things they believed/said while admiring other things; but when you have someone who did things on the level of Mao, with millions dying from his collectivist policies, there is no justification for any admiration. It would be like admiring Genghis Kahn for his courage and steadfastness.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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I agree that it doesn't have to be all-or-nothing with people...you can reject some things they believed/said while admiring other things; but when you have someone who did things on the level of Mao, with millions dying from his collectivist policies, there is no justification for any admiration. It would be like admiring Genghis Kahn for his courage and steadfastness.
You agree that it doesn't have to be all-or-nothing, and then you argue for all-or-nothing???? That simply doesn't make sense. Whether it's the case of Mother Teresa or Mao or Hitler or Catherine the Great, almost all famous people have qualities or beliefs that are admirable and qualities or beliefs that are detestable. Of course you admire people for their courage and steadfastness. Courage and steadfastness are ADMIRABLE qualities. That doesn't mean you don't condemn the same people for their ruthlessness. Ruthlessness is not an admirable quality.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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This is all just revisionist history. Was Margaret Sanger a racist? By today's standards, most certainly. But she was TYPICAL for her time....By all means, educate yourselves. Learn about the time period and the attitudes about race that were prevalent for that era in American history. Learn about the MANY prominent people that shared those attitudes. And then grow up, because the dichotomoy between good and evil is not clear cut....
I can see your point; we are all to some extent the product of our times. But what you seem to miss is that there was an entire intellectual framework connected with progressivism at the time that justified racsim based on the pseudo-science of 'eugenics' that was in vogue in academia at the time. It can be traced back to progressive/populist writers such as Mary Lease author of The Problem of Civilization Solved (1895) which advocated a global separation of the races (btw, along with rants against Wall Street...plus ca change!).
A History of the American People - Paul Johnson - Google Books

Why is it not worthwhile to examine whether some of these ideas are not still with us today, albeit repackaged and morphed into different forms? I can still see same thinking. Namely that there is an academic elite whose theories are automatically right because of the letters behind their names. And that there are groups of people who are unable to take care of and fend for themselves. Those who don't learn from history...you know the rest.
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