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I assume the data you are trying to link to the government database about vaccine reactions. That database contains unverified information. Anyone can file a report there. Please take a biology class and stop spreading paranoid nonsense from bad websites. Thank you.
The rest is nothing but wishful thinking. All the apples and running won't stop cervical cancer. It's even more ridiculous to think that simply being celibate is a good idea. People have sex. Protecting themselves against sexually transmitted disease is simply good common sense.
Again that is unverified information that is not grounded in fact. There's certainly no evidence that the HPV vaccine causes heart disease.
I guess 'bad information' to you is anything that contradicts your assumption that everything the pharmaceutical industry rolls out, from vaccine overkill to drugs for tots, is good for you. Attenuated virus that sheds, is not a good idea. Neither is injecting thermerisol. There has been an exponential rise in autism that corresponds directly with the amount of child vaccines that are moreless forced on the public. Parents are made to feel guilty if they don't vaccinate their kids with a plethora of drugs from the time they are 6 months old. There are certain vaccinations that I subscribe to, but many others that I do not. You have to weigh the benefit vs the associated risk, and keep in mind that the drug industry is more interested in what it can sell than what you really need.
I guess 'bad information' to you is anything that contradicts your assumption that everything the pharmaceutical industry rolls out, from vaccine overkill to drugs for tots, is good for you. Attenuated virus that sheds, is not a good idea. Neither is injecting thermerisol. There has been an exponential rise in autism that corresponds directly with the amount of child vaccines that are moreless forced on the public. Parents are made to feel guilty if they don't vaccinate their kids with a plethora of drugs from the time they are 6 months old. There are certain vaccinations that I subscribe to, but many others that I do not. You have to weigh the benefit vs the associated risk, and keep in mind that the drug industry is more interested in what it can sell than what you really need.
Please go take a biology class. Or at least stop reading the anti-vax websites. They're run by morons.
Thank you.
Thimerosol hasn't been in vaccines in years. Autism rates are still up. There's no evidence that thimerosol was ever dangerous in the first place.
In the meantime please explain which vaccines you think are not good and why. Better yet explain to us which diseases you would like to see return once we stop vaccinating. Whooping cough? Measles? Diphtheria? Tetanus? Polio? Mumps? Hib?
How many little babies would you see made mentally retarded from congenital rubella syndrome? Deaf from measles? Paralyzed from polio? Coughing to death from pertussis? Gasping for air from diphteria?
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This gives me mixed feelings. On the one hand I'm a social conservative, I also don't like gov't forcing people to do anything with their children other than require schooling. On the other hand the HPV vaccine was developed by my spiritual alma matar (University of Louisville, I'll physically be an Eastern Kentucky University alum this Dec though)
I guess 'bad information' to you is anything that contradicts your assumption that everything the pharmaceutical industry rolls out, from vaccine overkill to drugs for tots, is good for you. Attenuated virus that sheds, is not a good idea. Neither is injecting thermerisol. There has been an exponential rise in autism that corresponds directly with the amount of child vaccines that are moreless forced on the public. Parents are made to feel guilty if they don't vaccinate their kids with a plethora of drugs from the time they are 6 months old. There are certain vaccinations that I subscribe to, but many others that I do not. You have to weigh the benefit vs the associated risk, and keep in mind that the drug industry is more interested in what it can sell than what you really need.
Which vaccines do you subscribe to and why do you believe they are worthwhile and others are not? Newer vaccines use the same immunologic principles as older ones.
As far as risk and benefit is concerned, that is measured for every drug created. Follow up on Gardasil still shows that it is safe and it is effective in preventing infections with the strains of HPV in the vaccine and partial protection for strains that are not in the vaccine but closely related to those that are.
Here are the numbers for Gardasil in the application for approval for males. Please note the sections on adverse effects and deaths --- there were actually fewer deaths in the vaccine group, three in total, two accidental and one gunshot wound.
What problems do you think attenuated viruses in vaccines cause?
The thimerosal issue is dead. It was a fabrication by that charlatan Andrew Wakefield, who, in my opinion, is no better than a mass murderer for what he has done to worldwide health.
There is ample evidence that vaccines do not cause autism.
And in the grand scheme of things, the pharmaceutical industry would make billions more in drugs to treat the illnesses that vaccines prevent than they do from the vaccines themselves. Vaccines are just not that profitable.
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You're NOT going to get me to tell you what happened between me and Dr. Fauci last Thursday!
Dr. Fauci is going to retire soon.
He's a decent man.
"In "AIDS and the Doctors of Death" (1988), I mentioned a London Times explosive front page article connecting AIDS to extensive vaccine programs in Africa, and entitled "Smallpox vaccine triggered AIDS virus" (May 11, 1987). Robert Gallo, the co-discoverer of HIV, was quoted as saying, "The link between the WHO program and the epidemic is an interesting and important hypothesis. I cannot say it actually happened, but I have been saying for some years that the use of live vaccines such as that used for smallpox can activate a dormant infection such as HIV." The full Times story never appeared in the major media in the U.S., but is available online."
"In "AIDS and the Doctors of Death" (1988), I mentioned a London Times explosive front page article connecting AIDS to extensive vaccine programs in Africa, and entitled "Smallpox vaccine triggered AIDS virus" (May 11, 1987). Robert Gallo, the co-discoverer of HIV, was quoted as saying, "The link between the WHO program and the epidemic is an interesting and important hypothesis. I cannot say it actually happened, but I have been saying for some years that the use of live vaccines such as that used for smallpox can activate a dormant infection such as HIV." The full Times story never appeared in the major media in the U.S., but is available online."
The entire theory that the hepatitis B vaccine was used to introduce the HIV deliberately into the gay population hinges on there being no HIV infection before the vaccine trial was started. That is not true.
The link suggests that gay men were targeted in the hepatitis B vaccine trial as some form of homophobic conspiracy. Actually, the population was chosen because they were at high risk, because of their sexual activity, to acquire hepatitis B --- the same high risk behavior that made them at risk to acquire HIV. It does not mean they got HIV from the hepatitis B vaccine. Having one sexually transmitted disease increases the risk of having another.
The quote from Maurice Hilleman was a joke, ergo. That's why the people listening to him laughed. See his bio here. He was famous for his prickly personality
"Dr. Hilleman created eight of the 14 most commonly used vaccines, including those for mumps, measles, chicken pox, pneumonia, meningitis, rubella and many other infectious diseases. He developed more than three dozen vaccines, more than any other scientist. His measles vaccine alone is estimated to prevent 1 million deaths worldwide every year."
"Among scientists, he is a legend. But to the general public, he is the world's best kept secret," said Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. "I think, without hyperbole, he as an individual has had a more positive impact on the health of the world than any other scientist, any other vaccinologist, in history."
And Dr. Gallo's statement does not say that giving a {smallpox} vaccine causes HIV. He only theorizes that a live vaccine might cause a latent HIV infection to become active. I can find no studies indicating that to be true, however.
The entire article is Cantwell's musings and theories, with a segue into the evils of human experimentation.
Really bad junk science. Helps sell his books, though, I suspect.
Edited to add: The mumps virus Hilleman used to develop the mumps vaccine came fro his daughter, Jenny Lynn. The strain is named after her.
"In1986, Hilleman joked to medical historian Edward Shorter
that in importing vervets (green monkeys ---Suzy Q) he "didn't realize I was bringing AIDS into the United States." It was a typically freewheeling Hilleman remark, one that he later regretted since it was taken as truth by antivaccine fanatics."
"In1986, Hilleman joked to medical historian Edward Shorter
that in importing vervets (green monkeys ---Suzy Q) he "didn't realize I was bringing AIDS into the United States." It was a typically freewheeling Hilleman remark, one that he later regretted since it was taken as truth by antivaccine fanatics."
This guy has all of the characteristics of a typical Republican.
The entire theory that the hepatitis B vaccine was used to introduce the HIV deliberately into the gay population hinges on there being no HIV infection before the vaccine trial was started. That is not true.
The link suggests that gay men were targeted in the hepatitis B vaccine trial as some form of homophobic conspiracy. Actually, the population was chosen because they were at high risk, because of their sexual activity, to acquire hepatitis B --- the same high risk behavior that made them at risk to acquire HIV. It does not mean they got HIV from the hepatitis B vaccine. Having one sexually transmitted disease increases the risk of having another.
The quote from Maurice Hilleman was a joke, ergo. That's why the people listening to him laughed. See his bio here. He was famous for his prickly personality
"Dr. Hilleman created eight of the 14 most commonly used vaccines, including those for mumps, measles, chicken pox, pneumonia, meningitis, rubella and many other infectious diseases. He developed more than three dozen vaccines, more than any other scientist. His measles vaccine alone is estimated to prevent 1 million deaths worldwide every year."
"Among scientists, he is a legend. But to the general public, he is the world's best kept secret," said Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. "I think, without hyperbole, he as an individual has had a more positive impact on the health of the world than any other scientist, any other vaccinologist, in history."
And Dr. Gallo's statement does not say that giving a {smallpox} vaccine causes HIV. He only theorizes that a live vaccine might cause a latent HIV infection to become active. I can find no studies indicating that to be true, however.
The entire article is Cantwell's musings and theories, with a segue into the evils of human experimentation.
Really bad junk science. Helps sell his books, though, I suspect.
Edited to add: The mumps virus Hilleman used to develop the mumps vaccine came fro his daughter, Jenny Lynn. The strain is named after her.
He's killed millions of people.
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