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Old 08-11-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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Do you think Rick Perry should read the Bible and follow the preachings of Jesus Christ, as opposed to playing a political game using religion?
What was he doing? In the evidence provided, he sent out a message for people to pray for the state of the country, to come to together and the services offered were teachings of Christ to which nobody would claim are bad to espouse.

Past that, if he calls for people do such, it isn't a "demand" or a "mandate", but a simple request. If some politician that was a Muslim called out for people to pray to Alla and to encourage the teachings of bringing people together and seeking strength to solidify the nation and to help it make it through the times of hardship, and asked them to come and join them for some teachings of the Prophet Mohammad, I wouldn't care in any sense that was a violation of my freedom, of my rights. I may disagree with the religion, but I respect the intention and as long as nothing infringes on my choice to refuse such and attend to my own beliefs, then nothing as been infringed, nothing is violated.

Now consider the numerous people who do not believe in any such religious beliefs and their mandates on all to adhere to their principals of such to which requires all to conform to their beliefs and practices by restricting their own actions to abide such.

Its pure garbage and oppression and anyone who does not see such is simply contributing to the violation of freedoms of all for the sake of their individual interests.

 
Old 08-11-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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No, it's not both. It's freedom of religion, and freedom from a state-run religion. Not freedom FROM any religion.
Atheists have the right to be free from religion if they so choose. The government cannot force them to accept religion, therefore freedom from religion exists.
 
Old 08-11-2011, 04:43 PM
 
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No, it's not both. It's freedom of religion, and freedom from a state-run religion. Not freedom FROM any religion.
So you are saying that people should be forced to accept a specific religion from our government?
 
Old 08-11-2011, 04:49 PM
 
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Atheists have the right to be free from religion if they so choose. The government cannot force them to accept religion, therefore freedom from religion exists.

Exactly right, they do have the right to be free from its mandates as such. They however are not free to demand it be obsolete from their experience. That is, they have no right to demand it be clean from all of possible aspects of encountering such.

If they do not respect they have no right to demand such, then get their damn weapons out and oppress it in honesty. This constant sneaky aspect of them being offended and ever increasing law to mandate their position is tiring.


Either they get out their swords and stand for their position of aggression, or they shut up. Make the damn choice and stop wasting peoples time with childish demands of servitude while hiding behind that of a mothers skirt.
 
Old 08-11-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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So you are saying that people should be forced to accept a specific religion from our government?

Don't be obtuse! It is a matter of mandate, seriously do you not understand the history of oppressive religion and how it relates to the country? Did you not read about the 99 thesis and how it came about? Did you not understand the progression of the Church of England and how it oppressed? Wake up! This isn't about an issue of encountering religion, it is about the problem of being dictated concerning it. Don't they teach US history anymore or is it simply a garbage spew about how Bush is bad and the US is evil and needs to fall? This is getting absurd!
 
Old 08-11-2011, 05:09 PM
 
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Don't be obtuse! It is a matter of mandate, seriously do you not understand the history of oppressive religion and how it relates to the country? Did you not read about the 99 thesis and how it came about? Did you not understand the progression of the Church of England and how it oppressed? Wake up! This isn't about an issue of encountering religion, it is about the problem of being dictated concerning it. Don't they teach US history anymore or is it simply a garbage spew about how Bush is bad and the US is evil and needs to fall? This is getting absurd!
Then what are you saying?????
 
Old 08-11-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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On September 28, 2009, at 1:40 p.m., God's messengers visited Rick Perry. On this day, the Lord's messengers arrived in the form of two Texas pastors, Tom Schlueter of Arlington and Bob Long of San Marcos, who called on Perry in the governor's office inside the state Capitol. Schlueter and Long both oversee small congregations, but they are more than just pastors. They consider themselves modern-day apostles and prophets, blessed with the same gifts as Old Testament prophets or New Testament apostles.
Rick Perry’s Army of God | Progressive Democrats of America (http://www.pdamerica.org/get-informed/view/rick-perrys-army-of-god/ - broken link)

VIDEO: Rick Perry “Apostle” thinks Statue Of Liberty is a demonic-idol
VIDEO: Rick Perry “Apostle” thinks Statue Of Liberty is a “Demonic Idol” | The Political Carnival
Attack Attack Attack that is all the liberal have because they cant run on their policy. They think they can make everyone personally look worse while the voters ignore the policy and economy.
Liberal you cant run on the record so attack attack attack.We all better get use to it
 
Old 08-11-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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So where do they stand on Mormons, Catholics and Jews?
They don't like 'em. Of the 3, these new apostles like the Jews slightly better, because Jews use the Old Testament like they do, but they don't believe the Jews have the right take on the word of God. The other 2 are total apostates in their view.
 
Old 08-11-2011, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Maine
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All those supposed "FEMA" concentration camps would come in handy as "Re-education Bible Camps". Brown shirt required.
 
Old 08-11-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Nice spin but it has nothing to do with not wanting to belong to the US and has everything to do with not wanting to be part of a US that values the "rights" of illegal immigrants over the rights of US citizens.
Wow. You couldn't be more wrong. This movement is world-wide, and some of it's fastest growing churches are in Africa and Mexico. It is not at all concerned with keeping our rights as citizens- in their view, only Christians who believe as they do will have any rights if they are able to take over. These guys don't care a lick if a person is illegal or not- they want people who think like them. If Palin, Perry, or Bachmann had the power to let illegals who were believers to vote, they would get it done in a split second.
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