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Old 08-16-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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American society is shallow. Money (and materialism) is highly valued, even worshipped. America is the nation that worships the Golden Calf.
Who are Americans without their materialism?
I'm sure some are like that, just like they are in every country and society.

But to make such a negative generalization is wrong and probably reflects your jealousy.

I know a lot of people, and very few worship the golden calf. Most of us just enjoy life.
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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He was quoting a book. You know those things they have in libraries, made out of paper, now available electronically. Liberal elites read them from time to time.
I believe the term is plagerizing.
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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80 years of Keynesian economic policies has left our nation 14 trillion dollars in debt. It is time to return to the classical liberal philosophies of Jefferson, Smith, Mill, Mises, Hayek and Friedman.

Absolutely! So vote for Ron Paul !!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Liberal schmiberal. Aside from Jefferson (I assume you are talking about Thomas Jefferson), I never heard of any of these people. Conversely, I wonder if you have ever heard of Rockefeller, Ford (as in Henry), Getty (as in J. Paul), Carnegie (as in Andrew - as in libraries), and a host of WEALTHY entrepreneurs who made this country strong.

Nobel prizes and all that are very nice, but they do not feed people. Theory and postulation is what is *wrong* with this country. Rolling up your sleeves and CREATING work and opportunities is what matters, not sitting around talking about it (or in most liberals' cases, whining about it.)

And to create things. You need money.

20yrsinBranson

You really should read Mises, Hayek and Friedman. Here is a good place to start;

Ludwig von Mises Institute
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Old 08-16-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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I'm sure some are like that, just like they are in every country and society.

But to make such a negative generalization is wrong and probably reflects your jealousy.

I know a lot of people, and very few worship the golden calf. Most of us just enjoy life.
You make good points.
I agree that such people are in most developed nations. I live many years in Germany and saw that. They are the Bourgeoisie, an international mentality. America, however, is the world's staunch fortress of the Bourgeoisie.
I'm not jealous, envious, or whatever.
I'm sure there are enough Americans that would rather read a book than watch American Idol or rent an Italian movie instead of going to see the latest Hollywood offering.
Who will admit to worshipping the Golden Calf? No one. I think the only ones insulted by my posts are those who see themselves in my descriptions.
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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I believe the term is plagerizing.
"plagiarize". guess you dont read very often

Plagiarize - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

another public school by-product here.
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:18 PM
 
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That is the way that the world works. It has been that way since the beginning of time. Man up and face the facts that the world is competitive.

I would offer that when I was in college, there was no "Starbucks", only local coffee shops. Yet Starbucks arrived and did well.

Perhaps your local coffee shop, if it offers superior service and coffee, can supplant "Starbucks" and become the next great buisness.

Stop whining and get to work. The younger generation is lazy and worthless.

This is the biggest line of totalitarian capitalistic bull **** on the planet.

The endless extra chromosome dream of "you'll make it rich if you just try harder."

Guess what. We ain't falling for that **** no more.

We are in this together and this corporate fantasy of socialism for the top one percent and "free market" for the rest of us is on it's way out.
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Liberal schmiberal. Aside from Jefferson (I assume you are talking about Thomas Jefferson), I never heard of any of these people. Conversely, I wonder if you have ever heard of Rockefeller, Ford (as in Henry), Getty (as in J. Paul), Carnegie (as in Andrew - as in libraries), and a host of WEALTHY entrepreneurs who made this country strong.

Nobel prizes and all that are very nice, but they do not feed people. Theory and postulation is what is *wrong* with this country. Rolling up your sleeves and CREATING work and opportunities is what matters, not sitting around talking about it (or in most liberals' cases, whining about it.)

And to create things. You need money.

20yrsinBranson
Obviously, you have never had a single economics class. The people you speak of made this country strong because they were not near as hindered by government policies as capitalists today.
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:34 PM
 
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This is the biggest line of totalitarian capitalistic bull **** on the planet.

The endless extra chromosome dream of "you'll make it rich if you just try harder."

Guess what. We ain't falling for that **** no more.

We are in this together and this corporate fantasy of socialism for the top one percent and "free market" for the rest of us is on it's way out.
Free market for everybody!
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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We are in this together and this corporate fantasy of socialism for the top one percent and "free market" for the rest of us is on it's way out.
Would be nice. I'm not hopeful, but maybe someday, after this planet is in complete disarray, after many have died, after much has crumbled, will people wake up.
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