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Old 08-17-2011, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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As I said not every utterance of Paul is nutty. But there are doozies.
The only thing nutty here is people who believe the same failed policies in the past will somehow work today.

Ron Paul correctly told us the Housing bill would collapse our economy. But you keep following the ones who said as late as 2006 the economy was fine. You keep following the ones who said the bailouts would jump start the economy and get unemployment to 8 percent.
Bad enough to have the thieves in Congress manage the economy into the ground, worse to rely on them to get us out.

In a nut shell losers, following losers.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:45 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Paulistas are dense, dense, dense. The debt woud be issued wether the Fed existed or not. NO NEW DEBT IS SSUED BECAUSE OF THE FED. The Fed buys existing debt, this is how it get dollars into circulation.

The Treasury pays interest to the Fed because the Fed owns the debt, it bought from John Q. Public. If the Fed didn't buy it, John Q . Public would still own it and the Treasury would be out the interest. If you didn't have the Fed, you would have John Conyers and Obama making printing decisions. That would be extremely bad. Banana republic bad.

Please point out how NEW debt is issued because of Fed actions. This should be good. Please let me know how much debt was CREATED because the Fed prints money. I'll help you out. NONE!!!!!

By the way it does not say the portion I highlighted. Please cut and paste. You are making things up.

Maybe this will help you. I think you may be incapable of understanding the issue.

How do central banks inject money into the economy?

"Finally, the Fed can affect the money supply by conducting open market operations, which affects the federal funds rate. In open operations, the Fed buys and sells government securities in the open market. If the Fed wants to increase the money supply, it buys government bonds. This supplies the securities dealers who sell the bonds with cash, increasing the overall money supply. Conversely, if the Fed wants to decrease the money supply, it sells bonds from its account, thus taking in cash and removing money from the economic system."




The Fed is not there for us here in the good `ol USA. It is there to fund the world off the blood, sweat and tears of the US worker and investor.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The only thing nutty here is people who believe the same failed policies in the past will somehow work today.

Ron Paul correctly told us the Housing bill would collapse our economy. But you keep following the ones who said as late as 2006 the economy was fine. You keep following the ones who said the bailouts would jump start the economy and get unemployment to 8 percent.
Bad enough to have the thieves in Congress manage the economy into the ground, worse to rely on them to get us out.

In a nut shell losers, following losers.

Only losers would follow a nut from the frying pan to the fire.

The loony Paul followers think if you don't agree with him you agree with Obama, nothing could be further from the truth.

Look at it this way. If Obama could simply turn on the printing press and churn out trillion dollar coins, what do you think inflation would look like? Yeah, I think the Fed is a mighty good idea.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Only losers would follow a nut from the frying pan to the fire.
which of these qualifies for frying pan into the fire?

Ron Paul calling 9/11 years before it happened.

Obama using the same tactic to get Bin Laden that Ron Paul championed right after 9/11

Ron Paul calling the economic crash years before it happened when others said there was no possibility it would happen.

Ron Paul telling us the bailouts wouldn't work and the exact reasons why.

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The loony Paul followers think if you don't agree with him you agree with Obama, nothing could be further from the truth.
You don't speak for his followers. You speak for losers.

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Look at it this way. If Obama could simply turn on the printing press and churn out trillion dollar coins, what do you think inflation would look like?
The printing press has been turned on. QE1 and QE 2. QE3 is looming

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Yeah, I think the Fed is a mighty good idea.
LOL, you would.
Bailing out foreign banks by the Fed using our money is a mighty good idea??????
The dollar is worth pennies compared to what it was in 1913 when the Fed was created.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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which of these qualifies for frying pan into the fire?

Ron Paul calling 9/11 years before it happened.

Obama using the same tactic to get Bin Laden that Ron Paul championed right after 9/11

Ron Paul calling the economic crash years before it happened when others said there was no possibility it would happen.

Ron Paul telling us the bailouts wouldn't work and the exact reasons why.


You don't speak for his followers. You speak for losers.
Nah, I speak for sanity, you can speak for the nuts. The fact of the matter is, Paul serves a purpose for conservatives but he is a marginal character who stands zero chance of serving in higher office. He is the Republican's version of Ralph Nader.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Nah, I speak for sanity, you can speak for the nuts. The fact of the matter is, Paul serves a purpose for conservatives but he is a marginal character who stands zero chance of serving in higher office. He is the Republican's version of Ralph Nader.
The fact is Ron Pauls policies work. Only someone with limited sanity would think its the person instead of the policy. Even though those same policies have failed in the past it's about the individual. LMAO.

Still ignore the facts about Ron Pauls successful policies? Very telling
Business as usual for the ones with blinders on.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:06 PM
 
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To me he may not be nuits but its a nttuy idea;IMO.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The fact is Ron Pauls policies work. Only someone with limited sanity would think its the person instead of the policy. Even though those same policies have failed in the past it's about the individual. LMAO.

Still ignore the facts about Ron Pauls successful policies? Very telling
Business as usual for the ones with blinders on.

Huh? What Paul policies work? As I wrote earlier, Paul has some good ideas, but he has one major nutty idea that disqualifies him, getting rid of the Fed.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Miami
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which of these qualifies for frying pan into the fire?

Ron Paul calling 9/11 years before it happened.

Obama using the same tactic to get Bin Laden that Ron Paul championed right after 9/11

Ron Paul calling the economic crash years before it happened when others said there was no possibility it would happen.

Ron Paul telling us the bailouts wouldn't work and the exact reasons why.

You don't speak for his followers. You speak for losers.

The printing press has been turned on. QE1 and QE 2. QE3 is looming

Bailing out foreign banks by the Fed using our money is a mighty good idea??????

The dollar is worth pennies compared to what it was in 1913 when the Fed was created.
Shorebaby is an interesting *fellow* ... as he/she prefers the status quo and supports inflation. Maybe he/she is part of the ruling class?

I am middle class, and so if we keep devaluing the dollar and increase inflation, I won't have any disposable income left. Incomes are certainly not keeping pace. Are we not an economy that is based on domestic consumption? So if we are, and stimulus puts money in the hands of the banks and the corporatists, which is not trickling anywhere but their own pockets - and now we have inflation, the middle class will be further eroded and we won't have any money to spend on goods. How does shorebébé think we can have an economy based on domestic consumption if inflation erodes middle class purchasing power?

The answer is simple, the middle class will disappear and our economy will never go back to the way it was even a few years ago. Our standard of living will drop.

We need to change the whole freakin system, not just one part. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who wants to discuss these ideas honestly and in the open. See how he owns Bernanke below, LOL, it is a classic...


Ron Paul Punks Bernanke - Is Gold Money? - YouTube
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Miami
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To me he may not be nuits but its a nttuy idea;IMO.
Which one of his ideas is nuts?
Legalizing Marijuana?
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