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Old 08-15-2012, 07:27 PM
 
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I believe men who molest boys are gay, but it doesn't really matter,
they really need to get dead. Problem solved.
Some men who molest boys are attracted to adult men (gay adult orientation). Some men who molest boys are attracted to adult men and adult women (bisexual adult orientation). Some men who molest boys are attracted to adult women (heterosexual adult orientation). Many men who molest boys are not attracted to adults at all (no adult sexuality).

Some men who molest boys, regardless of which of the 4 categories from above regarding adult sexual orientation they fall into, are only attracted to boys. Some men who molest boys, regardless of which of the 4 categories from above regarding adult sexual orientation they fall into, are attracted to children - the sex of the child doesn't particularly matter (and they often molest both if they have access).

To say any man who molests a boy is also a gay man is just plain false.

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Old 08-15-2012, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Gone
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you are very smart person! you know what you are talking about!!
Is that so, please explain how you come to this conclusion, go ahead, enlighten me
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I've been thinking it might be part of the long-term agenda, too, but, seriously, I can't see it ever happening. If there is any one thing that people in the Western world are pretty well united against, it is the sexual abuse of children.

People in the western world used to say the same thing about homosexuality and miscegenation.

Now if you are against these new found virtues, you are the criminal.



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Old 08-17-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Penalties must be strict. The way things seem to be going in this country, I'm not sure how the future children of America will ever be protected. One offense should = no less than 20 years to life.
Penalties for sex crimes are already much stricter in America than in any comparable Western democracy. The registry, for instance, is a contemptible example of puritan hypocrisy.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Interesting:

After release from prison, Maine sex offenders rarely commit another sex crime, study reports | The Kennebec Journal, Augusta, ME
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:05 AM
 
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“The first thing they do is to get the public to divest from thinking of what the offender does criminally, to thinking of the offender’s emotional state, to think of him as thinking of his emotional state, [and] to empathize and sympathize,” Reisman said. “You don’t change the nation in one fell swoop; you have to change it by conditioning. The aim is to get them [pedophiles] out of prison.”

Yeah who cares about the victims. What about the poor offender's. We have to empathize with them. I say just kill em and be done with it. Not in the minds of these nutjobs. Hell Obama's school czar was a supporter of NAMBLA. How long until being a pedophile becomes the norm in this society and if you don't agree you must be racist?

Your solution to fixing the nations mentally ill by just shooting them all is rather telling of your respect for human life and gives a clue as to what an America under your ideal rule would be all about.Perhaps after you've eliminated all the mentally ill you could get rid of anyone who isnt blonde haired and blue eyed and extreme rightwing.
If you are wondering about some of the reasons people vote Democrat rather than Republican the thought of some one with your viewpoint running the country may be considered one of them.
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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Whether the pedo is going to commit another crime is not relevant. From your article:
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It's also important to acknowledge the variety of sex offenders when looking at any data, Saxl said. Sex offenders can be child molesters, or someone who urinated in public, or a 19-year-old who had sex with a 16-year-old. Depending on what category of sex offender one studies, the recidivism rates could drastically differ.
We are talking about pedophiles who were "born this way," and cannot be cured. We are not talking about other sex crimes or other sex-crime perpetrators. The ones who act on their desires have no off switch in their head. Not much different from someone who has no off switch for knowing that raping or murdering is wrong. As has been stated in this thread, almost all advanced societies give special protection to children. A child's innocence was stolen--forever--using coercion or force, by someone who knowingly went against the law and took advantage of another individual who is not developed enough to make an informed decision. I wouldn't say the 19-year-old who had sex with a 16-year-old is a pedophile. Dy the definition of the law, however, it is a sex crime. Anyone above the age of 25 (a commonly acceptable marker for a developed brain) engaging in a sex act with a minor is a pedophile to me. Trying to relate this to "Puritan hypocrisy" is disingenuous to the severity of such crimes. They should get no sympathy from anyone.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:36 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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How much of it is because of this:
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The department provides intense individual and group therapy programs for sex offenders during their incarceration, and then strict supervision and rules after they're sent home.

"Specialized probation officers are also partnering with family members, community members and employers, who can all lend a hand when it comes to supervising," Fitzpatrick said.

"Monitoring where offenders live, where they work and where they spend their time are all part of a wrap-around approach to ensuring no more victims."
The latest stats say that 6% of the criminals in the US commit 70% of the crime. They could all use this level of supervision and maybe we could lower those stats too.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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“The first thing they do is to get the public to divest from thinking of what the offender does criminally, to thinking of the offender’s emotional state, to think of him as thinking of his emotional state, [and] to empathize and sympathize,” Reisman said. “You don’t change the nation in one fell swoop; you have to change it by conditioning. The aim is to get them [pedophiles] out of prison.”

Yeah who cares about the victims. What about the poor offender's. We have to empathize with them. I say just kill em and be done with it. Not in the minds of these nutjobs. Hell Obama's school czar was a supporter of NAMBLA. How long until being a pedophile becomes the norm in this society and if you don't agree you must be racist?
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Normalizing Pedophilia | Conference | Mental Illness | The Daily Caller
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"If a small group" as the article you post says. Thats like saying if a small group of white people had their way we'd enslave African Americans again. Its true, does that make it some vast right wing conspiracy? Nope

Its not a way of normalizing anything, Schizophrenics aren't "normal", but it is a psychological disorder, and so is pedophilia.
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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"If a small group" as the article you post says. Thats like saying if a small group of white people had their way we'd enslave African Americans again. Its true, does that make it some vast right wing conspiracy? Nope

Its not a way of normalizing anything, Schizophrenics aren't "normal", but it is a psychological disorder, and so is pedophilia.
i agree, they are sick and dont want to admit it!
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