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Old 08-29-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Lol another failure at science. Gravity has not been proven. Proof does not exist in science. Gravity is far less understood than evolution.

Just because you don't understand evolution doesn't mean it isn't well supported. Antibiotics are one example of "proven" evolution that you take for granted, because you'll no doubt claim it's "microevolution".

This thread is perfect evidence of the failure of the American education system, and why our giant stupid population is such an embarrassment to the rest of the civilized world.
So you are giant, stupid and embarrassed.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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So you are calling followers of all religions - including your own - arrogant? Afterall, they all claim to have the answers.
If they claim they have all the answers, which no religion does, then yes.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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You want to see failure of the American educational system? Particularly when it comes to science?
Here ya go, in case you haven't seen this one.
Woman doesn't know about light refraction - YouTube
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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You cannot argue with FAITH. FAITH is as strong as the believer. FAITH does NOT need to be REAL.

Science is based on observation and experiment. Knowledge derived from scientific investigation does not require faith and never has. It only requires repeatable observation of actual phenomena.

The Republican Party has duped the FAITHFUL into believing the Democratic Party is composed of the FAITHLESS scientific elite that have no care for the TRUE BELIEVERS. This is one of the most successful advertizing campaigns ever. It is also completely false.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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If they claim they have all the answers, which no religion does, then yes.
I think most religions are quite serious about their claims. History has shown, they are willing to kill for it. They all must be quite arrogant.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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Where did it all come from?
A super atom.

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pre big bang.
That's the $million$ question.

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That material had to come from somewhere.
That material only needed to consist of one type of atom.

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The elements are the building blocks of life.
Those are born out of supernovae.

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Was it pure luck that these elements were arranged in just the perfect order?
No, but they certainly assimilate in strange chemical orders as they condense down as they become less and less useful over the life of the universe.

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These are questions that have no known answers.
Sure they do, and they can be answered in a very large combination of ones and zeros.

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You can't have one without the other.
That's true. It does take a philosophical mind to move past the here and now and seek answers about everything universe. Even Einstein said he wanted to know what god thinks. He may not have believed in anything supernatural but he certainly thought there was a perfect order of some sort.

Quantum Theory was very troubling to him.

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Old 08-29-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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This was once said about smoking causing cancer. Now we know better.
So you agree that we currently do not know.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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apparently I am not typing correctly for you to understand

I do belive in evolution...but I have YET to see any PROOF of it
There is no such thing as proof outside of math.

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I know we evolve..I do genealogy as a hobby

but as I have said many, many times in this..SHOW ME THE SOCIETIES

I can show you clans of privitives in africa....now show me the clans (societies or communities) of the PREDECESORS form eions ago....not SINGULAR fossils

we can show fossils of SOCIETIES from 5500 bc in ancient egypt
...show me the societies (clans) from 20,000 bc...or from 100,000 bc or even 12,000 bc

until you can show me, a society(clan, community, town, pack) of these EVOLUTIONARY MATATIONS. then you got nutt'n
Why would you assume an entire population would be fossilized? Fossilization is a rare process. I'm not exactly sure what you're asking for, and how you think it will suddenly "prove" evolution.

If we look at skull fossils for example, creationists cannot agree on which are ape or human.

If evolution is false, there should be clear undeniable agreement as to which are which, since there would be no such thing as intermediary fossils.

Comparison of all skulls
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I think most religions are quite serious about their claims. History has shown, they are willing to kill for it. They all must be quite arrogant.
You are talking about people, not religions.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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Where did it all come from?

pre big bang.
Irrelevant to the topic. Evolution does not deal with Cosmology or origins.

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That material had to come from somewhere.
Or the universe is in a never ending state of expansion or contraction. I believe in God, but the claim "Goddidit" is not sufficient.
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