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science shows that humans use oxygen and expele (exhale) co2
science shows that greenery (plantlife) uses co2 and expeles o2
science shows that co2 levels have been 3 times HIGHER than they are today, in the past (ie the co2 325 of today is is much lower than the 750-10000 that co2 levels were 100,000 years ago
science shows us that the earth has warmed AND cooled many times
science shows us that ANTARTICA was once a lush furtile land, not covered in ice
science shows us that greenland was once a green lush furtile land, not covered with ice
science shows us that GLACIERS created many of the geographical features that we look at today (ie Long Island was made by the lower reaching of graciers, the great lakes were created by glaciers, the grand canyon was created by glacial melting)
science shows us that plants would grow much better, and use less water if the co2 was HIGHER...around 700-1500ppm compared to the current 320ppm
common sense states that as the earths polulation expands, so does the need for more plantlife...to keep our oxygen levels up.......yet the global warming people only want to talk about car/industry exaust; man created co2,.... and how to tax it
First a little Plant Science 101 - For a successful, productive garden, hydroponic, indoor and greenhouse growers must control six "essential elements" - air, light, nutrients, water, humidity and temperature. Remove or alter the ratio of only one of these elements, growth will slow, and plants could eventually die. In this article, we will review the air element, specifically carbon dioxide (CO2), it's role in the most vital plant process - photosynthesis - and how to effectively implement CO2 systems.
Photosynthesis begins when stomata, pore-like openings on the undersides of leaves, are activated by light and begin breathing in carbon dioxide (CO2) from the air. This CO2 is broken down into carbon (C) and oxygen (O). Some of the O is used for other plants processes, but most is expelled back into the air. The C is combined with water to form sugar molecules, which are then converted into carbohydrates. These carbohydrates (starches) combine with nutrients, such as nitrogen, to produce new plant tissues. CO2 is vital to plant growth and development, and yet is often the most overlooked element in indoor gardening.
Successful indoor growers implement methods to increase CO2 consentrations in their enclosure. The typical outdoor air we breathe contains 0.03 - 0.045% (300 - 450 ppm) CO2. Research (SCIENCE) demonstrates that optimum growth and production for most plants occur between 1200 - 1500 ppm CO2. These optimum CO2 levels can boost plant metabolism, growth and yield by 25 - 60%.Plants under effective CO2 enrichment and management display thicker, lush green leaves, an abundance of fragrant fruit and flowers, and stronger, more vigorous roots. CO2 enriched plants grow rapidly and must also be supplied with the other five "essential elements" to ensure proper development and a plentiful harvest.
Commercially available CO2 generators offer a consistent method of enriching indoor gardens. Using atmospheric control systems in conjunction with CO2 generators, ensure the most effective production and use of CO2.
As CO2 is a critical component of growth, plants in environments with inadequate CO2 levels - below 225 ppm - will cease to grow or produce.
As the air's CO2 content rises, most plants exhibit increased rates of net photosynthesis and biomass production. Moreover, on a per-unit-leaf-area basis, plants exposed to elevated CO2 concentrations are likely to lose less water via transpiration, as they tend to display lower stomatal conductances. Hence, the amount of carbon gained per unit of water lost per unit leaf area - or water-use efficiency - should increase dramatically as the air's CO2 content rises. In the study of Serraj et al. (1999), soybeans grown at 700 ppm CO2 displayed 10 to 25% reductions in total water loss while simultaneously exhibiting increases in dry weight of as much as 33%. Thus, elevated CO2 significantly increased the water-use efficiencies of the studied plants.
In summary, it is clear that as the CO2 content of the air continues to rise, nearly all of earth's agricultural species will respond favorably by exhibiting increases in water-use efficiency. It is thus likely that food and fiber production will increase on a worldwide basis, even in areas where productivity is severely restricted due to limited availability of soil moisture. Therefore, one can expect global agricultural productivity to rise in tandem with future increases in the atmosphere's CO2 concentration.
so more co2 is actually GREENER...its not theroy, its scientific fact
common sense states that as the earths polulation expands, so does the need for more plantlife...to keep our oxygen levels up.............yet the global warming liberals only want to talk about car/industry exaust; man created co2,.... and how to tax it
Last edited by workingclasshero; 08-29-2011 at 07:28 AM..
Apparently he's clueless to know that the majority of the world's Christians and Jews are theistic evolutionists. Creationism is a modern day United States invention.
While I understand the cognitive dissonance mentality, it's quite frustrating when you actually look at how ridiculous these people behave. People like nononsense make Christianity look like an absolute joke. Augustine warned us of these kind of fools hundreds of years ago.
It must take a special kind of "disconnect".
I wonder if their refusal to learn has resulted in too much pruning of un-used neural connections? And they become incapable of reading any science based information that contradicts (or that they think contradicts) their religious beliefs?
I'd love to see some MRI/PET scans of fundamentalist/creationist's brains while they talk about the Bible/Hell/Rapture etc, then ask them to to try to read about what evolution actually is. I reckon we'd see something interesting happening.
Ummmm ... something that God put there to make atheists come up with the theory of evolution?
Seriously though, Republicans have always been the anti-science party as long as I can remember. Wasn't it Reagan who proudly tore down the solar collectors from the White House that Carter had had installed? Wasn't it Reagan who killed funding for the Solar Energy Resarch Institute in NM?
Seems to be an emerging anti-Christian party emerging.
Of course I believe in evolution, dinosaurs roamed the earth 65 million years ago and evolution is a fact.
Pope John Paul II revisited the question of evolution in a 1996 a message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. Unlike Pius XII, John Paul is broadly read, and embraces science and reason. John Paul said:
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Today, almost half a century after publication of the encyclical, new knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis. It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers, following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge. The convergence, neither sought nor fabricated, of the results of work that was conducted independently is in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory.
So if you guys want to be anti-Christian that is fine with me but don't lump a billion Catholics in with the fundie lunatics, ok?
science shows that humans use oxygen and expele (exhale) co2
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In summary, it is clear that as the CO2 content of the air continues to rise, nearly all of earth's agricultural species will respond favorably by exhibiting increases in water-use efficiency. It is thus likely that food and fiber production will increase on a worldwide basis, even in areas where productivity is severely restricted due to limited availability of soil moisture. Therefore, one can expect global agricultural productivity to rise in tandem with future increases in the atmosphere's CO2 concentration.
so more co2 is actually GREENER...its not theroy, its scientific fact
common sense states that as the earths polulation expands, so does the need for more plantlife...to keep our oxygen levels up.............yet the global warming liberals only want to talk about car/industry exaust; man created co2,.... and how to tax it
It's customary to provide a link to anything you copy and paste from another source, otherwise it looks like you are claiming this as your own original thoughts.
I wonder if their refusal to learn has resulted in too much pruning of un-used neural connections? And they become incapable of reading any science based information that contradicts (or that they think contradicts) their religious beliefs?
I'd love to see some MRI/PET scans of fundamentalist/creationist's brains while they talk about the Bible/Hell/Rapture etc, then ask them to to try to read about what evolution actually is. I reckon we'd see something interesting happening.
Thankfully here in the US we can vote Democrat so at least then we can feel good about ourselves by voting for a candidate that tallks about the topic and then does nothing.
I'd like to see the MRI's of all the people that voted for Obama (hey I voted for him) that still fall into lockstep even though he has followed Bush policy about 95% of the time. Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Guantanamo, high gas prices, let the corporations write the health care *reform*, wallstreet guys in key positions, Jeff Immelt the offshoring no-tax paying king of GE in a key position....seriously, so many people are blind due to partisanship but it's always the OTHER guys that a stupid and crazy.
Nononsenseguy reliably produces amusing nonsense on a regular basis. Some things never change.
I believe the Republican Party is infested with anti science people ever since they realized the support of their "greed is great" financial class would not get them elected. By pandering to the "people of faith, not thought" sector they have been able to be elected and then follow the dictated of their financial masters no matter how damaging to the people that elected them as well as most of the people that did not.
Faith is far easier than science because faith does not allow questioning or investigation and thus has absolute certainly. Science is never absolutely certain which is what allows it to present the most accurate and thoughtful view of the actual universe. Science presents evidence not revealed truth. I am a scientist and have very little use for organized religions based on some sacred text. The gods of the Old Testament have as much validity as the gods of Mt. Olympus.
Greg, you know from exchanges on other threads that we agree wholeheartedly about the "financial masters" and the damage they have done to our living standard in America. We also agree on organized religion.
But what I can't fathom is how you and others who embrace the man-made "climate change" shakedown were led to believe that failure to do so was "damaging to the people". Instituting "Cap and Trade" or other measures that will skyrocket energy costs is good for the people? Marching backward toward the horse and buggy is good for the people?
Embracing social engineering societal mandates in the name of fighting "climate change" is the ultimate surrender to the puppet masters, Greg. You're too smart to let them get hold of your string at this monumental crossroads on the way to a future of freedom - or not.
It's customary to link to anything you copy and paste from another source, otherwise it looks like you are claiming this as your own original thoughts.
sorry but 90% of that is my own word except for the biology101
love how you dont dispute the words, just attack the messenger
science shows that humans use oxygen and expele (exhale) co2
science shows that greenery (plantlife) uses co2 and expeles o2
science shows that co2 levels have been 3 times HIGHER than they are today, in the past (ie the co2 325 of today is is much lower than the 750-10000 that co2 levels were 100,000 years ago
science shows us that the earth has warmed AND cooled many times
science shows us that ANTARTICA was once a lush furtile land, not covered in ice
science shows us that greenland was once a green lush furtile land, not covered with ice
science shows us that GLACIERS created many of the geographical features that we look at today (ie Long Island was made by the lower reaching of graciers, the great lakes were created by glaciers, the grand canyon was created by glacial melting)
science shows us that plants would grow much better, and use less water if the co2 was HIGHER...around 700-1500ppm compared to the current 320ppm
common sense states that as the earths polulation expands, so does the need for more plantlife...to keep our oxygen levels up.......yet the global warming people only want to talk about car/industry exaust; man created co2,.... and how to tax it
First a little Plant Science 101 - For a successful, productive garden, hydroponic, indoor and greenhouse growers must control six "essential elements" - air, light, nutrients, water, humidity and temperature. Remove or alter the ratio of only one of these elements, growth will slow, and plants could eventually die. In this article, we will review the air element, specifically carbon dioxide (CO2), it's role in the most vital plant process - photosynthesis - and how to effectively implement CO2 systems.
Photosynthesis begins when stomata, pore-like openings on the undersides of leaves, are activated by light and begin breathing in carbon dioxide (CO2) from the air. This CO2 is broken down into carbon (C) and oxygen (O). Some of the O is used for other plants processes, but most is expelled back into the air. The C is combined with water to form sugar molecules, which are then converted into carbohydrates. These carbohydrates (starches) combine with nutrients, such as nitrogen, to produce new plant tissues. CO2 is vital to plant growth and development, and yet is often the most overlooked element in indoor gardening.
Successful indoor growers implement methods to increase CO2 concentrations in their enclosure. The typical outdoor air we breathe contains 0.03 - 0.045% (300 - 450 ppm) CO2. Research (SCIENCE) demonstrates that optimum growth and production for most plants occur between 1200 - 1500 ppm CO2. These optimum CO2 levels can boost plant metabolism, growth and yield by 25 - 60%.Plants under effective CO2 enrichment and management display thicker, lush green leaves, an abundance of fragrant fruit and flowers, and stronger, more vigorous roots. CO2 enriched plants grow rapidly and must also be supplied with the other five "essential elements" to ensure proper development and a plentiful harvest.
Commercially available CO2 generators offer the most economical, practical and consistent method of enriching indoor gardens. Using atmospheric control systems in conjunction with CO2 generators, ensure the most effective production and use of CO2.
As CO2 is a critical component of growth, plants in environments with inadequate CO2 levels - below 225 ppm - will cease to grow or produce.
As the air's CO2 content rises, most plants exhibit increased rates of net photosynthesis and biomass production. Moreover, on a per-unit-leaf-area basis, plants exposed to elevated CO2 concentrations are likely to lose less water via transpiration, as they tend to display lower stomatal conductances. Hence, the amount of carbon gained per unit of water lost per unit leaf area - or water-use efficiency - should increase dramatically as the air's CO2 content rises. In the study of Serraj et al. (1999), soybeans grown at 700 ppm CO2 displayed 10 to 25% reductions in total water loss while simultaneously exhibiting increases in dry weight of as much as 33%. Thus, elevated CO2 significantly increased the water-use efficiencies of the studied plants.
In summary, it is clear that as the CO2 content of the air continues to rise, nearly all of earth's agricultural species will respond favorably by exhibiting increases in water-use efficiency. It is thus likely that food and fiber production will increase on a worldwide basis, even in areas where productivity is severely restricted due to limited availability of soil moisture. Therefore, one can expect global agricultural productivity to rise in tandem with future increases in the atmosphere's CO2 concentration.
so more co2 is actually GREENER...its not theroy, its scientific fact
common sense states that as the earths polulation expands, so does the need for more plantlife...to keep our oxygen levels up.............yet the global warming liberals only want to talk about car/industry exaust; man created co2,.... and how to tax it
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Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Guantanamo, high gas prices, let the corporations write the health care *reform*, wallstreet guys in key positions, Jeff Immelt the offshoring no-tax paying king of GE in a key position....seriously, so many people are blind due to partisanship but it's always the OTHER guys that a stupid and crazy. 
