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Old 09-07-2011, 09:39 PM
 
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in our current profit-based system, why do liberals think they'll suddenly become altruistic and compassionate if their profit incentive is taken away? I mean on the one hand liberals tells us insurance companies are greedy and selfish and care only about profit, not about people. On the other hand, if there's no profit to be made, no incentive, why would drug companies continue doing research and developing drugs and cures? Why would insurance companies continue to sell insurance? Why would a doctor continue to practice? Why would anyone even go into medicine in the first place? Universal health care my behind. Why good is universal health care if there's no one to provide health care? What good is it if there's no one to develop drugs and cures? Liberals didn't really think this one through did you?
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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in our current profit-based system, why do liberals think they'll suddenly become altruistic and compassionate if their profit incentive is taken away? I mean on the one hand liberals tells us insurance companies are greedy and selfish and care only about profit, not about people. On the other hand, if there's no profit to be made, no incentive, why would drug companies continue doing research and developing drugs and cures? Why would insurance companies continue to sell insurance? Why would a doctor continue to practice? Why would anyone even go into medicine in the first place? Universal health care my behind. Why good is universal health care if there's no one to provide health care? What good is it if there's no one to develop drugs and cures? Liberals didn't really think this one through did you?
Watch all the people you mentioned suddenly become altruistic.
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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in our current profit-based system, why do liberals think they'll suddenly become altruistic and compassionate if their profit incentive is taken away? I mean on the one hand liberals tells us insurance companies are greedy and selfish and care only about profit, not about people. On the other hand, if there's no profit to be made, no incentive, why would drug companies continue doing research and developing drugs and cures? Why would insurance companies continue to sell insurance? Why would a doctor continue to practice? Why would anyone even go into medicine in the first place? Universal health care my behind. Why good is universal health care if there's no one to provide health care? What good is it if there's no one to develop drugs and cures? Liberals didn't really think this one through did you?
Who is taking it away....

It's not just insurance companies that are greedy, I think it's a pretty universal concept among businesses to be profitable. I'm sure the shareholders appreciate that. My son's premature birth and a 6 week stay in neonatal intensive care resulted in a bill of ~ $104,000 dollars for example.

There is such a thing as profit, and there is such a thing as obscenely over charging for something.

I understand you think liberals didn't think this one through. You do understand there are 10's of thousands of medical personal who work in a universal health care environment world wide, yes? Do you think they do it for free? Obviously, since they do it, there's reason(s). Reasons that you perhaps didn't consider.
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:39 AM
 
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It has been my experienced that any thread that begins with false premises, sweeping generalizations, infantile speculation concerning what others think, and illogical conclusions, usually gains a lot of similar responses. We shall see.
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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in our current profit-based system, why do liberals think they'll suddenly become altruistic and compassionate if their profit incentive is taken away? I mean on the one hand liberals tells us insurance companies are greedy and selfish and care only about profit, not about people. On the other hand, if there's no profit to be made, no incentive, why would drug companies continue doing research and developing drugs and cures? Why would insurance companies continue to sell insurance? Why would a doctor continue to practice? Why would anyone even go into medicine in the first place? Universal health care my behind. Why good is universal health care if there's no one to provide health care? What good is it if there's no one to develop drugs and cures? Liberals didn't really think this one through did you?
More profits would shift over to the funeral industry.
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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70Ford, it appears your family has had a bad string of luck. With your dads accident leading to his disability and your childs premature birth. Geez man. Hope your luck turns around from here on out.
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:51 AM
 
Location: California
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More profits would shift over to the funeral industry.
They are already making a killing
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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in our current profit-based system, why do liberals think they'll suddenly become altruistic and compassionate if their profit incentive is taken away? I mean on the one hand liberals tells us insurance companies are greedy and selfish and care only about profit, not about people. On the other hand, if there's no profit to be made, no incentive, why would drug companies continue doing research and developing drugs and cures? Why would insurance companies continue to sell insurance? Why would a doctor continue to practice? Why would anyone even go into medicine in the first place? Universal health care my behind. Why good is universal health care if there's no one to provide health care? What good is it if there's no one to develop drugs and cures? Liberals didn't really think this one through did you?
you do realize that profit is not part of the HEALTH CARE system of any other industrialized nation right????
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:13 AM
 
Location: California
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It's not just insurance companies that are greedy, I think it's a pretty universal concept among businesses to be profitable. I'm sure the shareholders appreciate that. My son's premature birth and a 6 week stay in neonatal intensive care resulted in a bill of ~ $104,000 dollars for example.
My overnight hospital stay after a hysterectomy last year came to over $100k. Of course the insurance had a lessor "negotiated amount" but still....the high prices are part of the game.
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:18 AM
 
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There's a difference between elimination and lessening.
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