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The scientific consensus about man-made global warming — which includes 97 percent to 98 percent of researchers in the field, according to the National Academy of Sciences — is getting stronger, not weaker, as the evidence for climate change just keeps mounting.
It is not the house of cards you want us to think it is. They are in no way "proof" that climate change is not happening and the grand conspiracy some think it is.
1. The emails were never validated as stolen, not once, ever is there a single piece of evidence to even verify such a claim.
2. I never said anything about proof concerning AGW, there is no need to prove AGW false, only a single fact is required to achieve such and plenty of that has already been achieved to show the lacking in the position within the science alone.
It does however show them colluding to keep skeptical research out of journals and working together in reviews to get the papers dismissed.
It showed them with heavy political intentions by trying to promote their position to governments to enact policy.
It shows them discussing and calling for the deletion of emails from FOIA requests.
It shows their frustration with the observed trends not syncing up with their modeled results.
It shows them creating web sites for the intent purpose of attacking a researcher who was auditing them and showing discrepancies in the methods.
It shows that they had no raw data for access, only value added data in the surface records.
It showed the level of their organization and accounting concerning the methods and data within their code and database files.
It showed the large list of funding they received from various private and government entities (Jones alone pulled in over 25 million dollars in research funding).
It showed many things to those who read them, looked through the countless excel files, code files, and database files.
It showed nothing for those who informed themselves by the media and agenda sites who did not read the emails, but recycled cherry picked comments from them and excuses from those who were implicated.
The emails merely showed the arrogance and incompetence of those to which we have been told to worship their expertise for years when the fact was they were heavily political.
The emails were a nail in the coffin for the IPCC as the emails led to many discussions within that showed a lot of the "peer reviewed" material in AR4 was simply grey literature lifted from promo pamphlets and unsubstantiated phone interviews.
The scientific consensus about man-made global warming — which includes 97 percent to 98 percent of researchers in the field, according to the National Academy of Sciences — is getting stronger, not weaker, as the evidence for climate change just keeps mounting.
Consensus is not science. It does not prove or disprove any particular position. It is simply a group of nodding heads. /shrug
If you believed in science than you would know that naturally occurring water vapour is the greatest contributor to greenhouse gases and that we have had cyclical ice ages for millions of years.
If you knew any science you would realize that the first part of your statement is nonsense. Water vapor is the biggest greenhouse gas but can't contribute to the greenhouse effect independently.
Imagine if all the water vapor in the atmosphere could magically be removed. What would happen? Within a few weeks water would evaporate (the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere is very small compared to the total of on land and ocean) to replace it back to about the old concentration. Conversely, if we would magically increase the humidity increase of the atmosphere, the extra water vapor would rain and it would return back to the old amount.
The concentration of water vapor is determined by the earth's temperature. Hotter air can hold more vapor. So if you warm the earth a bit, for example, by adding CO_2, more water will evaporate and the water vapor concentration will increase, warmer the earth further.
Warmer water also does not accelerate fish spawning. Fish spawning seasons are seasonal, tied to the calendar not to the weather. A warming (for example) of Salmon spawning streams will actually kill the spawn.
Warmer water holds less oxygen, and so is generally less biologically productive.
The scientific consensus about man-made global warming — which includes 97 percent to 98 percent of researchers in the field, according to the National Academy of Sciences — is getting stronger, not weaker, as the evidence for climate change just keeps mounting.
You mean the AGWarmists?
Again with that 98%...which is 98% of a few hundred.
More and more dissenting scientists are coming forward everyday.
What evidence keeps mounting?
Like the Sea ice that is NOT melting?
Like the sea level that is NOT rising?
Like the Ice cap that has NOT melted?
Like the Himalayas that are NOT melting?
Like the Polar bears that are NOT in danger?
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Originally Posted by nei
Warmer water holds less oxygen, and so is generally less biologically productive.
OMG, you've got to be kidding me?
COLD KILLS - just ask the coral reef, thousands of fish and other sea creatures that DIED when that cold snap down in FL happened.
But there have not been such drastic change in a short time period.
Prove it. Of course you have this knowledge concerning the period prior to written history to call upon, right? Or is this another of the false statements made by you and attempted to be passed of as indisputable fact?
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