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Funny and/or understood if you attended either MIT or Cal Tech. No, technically it's Cal Tech, but anyone from MIT will always refer to them as Cal Poly just to insult them.
Funny and/or understood if you attended either MIT or Cal Tech. No, technically it's Cal Tech, but anyone from MIT will always refer to them as Cal Poly just to insult them.
They'll train people? I'm sure they have no trouble - however - lots of people are leery of going back to school to get training for a job that may not be in demand a year or two (or four) from now.
It is called "On the job training", many skilled jobs overlap so learning one makes you qualified for more.
The US is the largest manufacturing economy in the world by a considerable margin. Second place China -- with ten times the number of manufacturing workers -- still lags well behind in terms of output. EVERY SINGLE ONE of the top twelve manufacturing economies in the world has LOST manufacturing jobs since the early to mid-1990's even as manufacturing output has soared. China in fact has LOST more manufacturing jobs than the US currently has. US job losses have been about average for the top twelve over the period. The simple fact is that like agriculture a century or so ago, manufacturing has lost its one-time ability to provide readily available jobs for the masses. This is true here and it is true everywhere else in the world as well. People need to adjust to reality.
There is a hell of a lot of folks who want skilled jobs, and they are not on a high horse. Gaining the skill level required for the best paying manufacturing jobs is far from easy to obtain.
I have yet to meet a person who is totally broke who thinks any job is below them. It's real easy to lump everyone who lost a job together, oldraider, but I don't think anybody is on a high horse these days, and there are very few of us who want to be doctors and lawyers. Get real, pal... how much did you want to be a doctor?
How is canceling benefits equate with filling all the few open positions offered? Do you honestly believe that people would rather be broke than avoid taking a job? Again- get real. Everyone is very aware we are living in the real world where jobs are hard to find. The unemployed are facing the consequences of the real world every hour of every day, and they're searching as best they know how to go back to a regular job.
The fact is:
Manufacturers lose money training new hires. The less a person is skilled, the more money is lost in training. Canceling unemployment does nothing to give the unemployed needed production skills; all it does is lessen their chances of ever finding good paying work.
I can introduce you to a big bunch of white-collar cubicle workers who would be delighted to put on coveralls and get their hands dirty if they knew how to turn a wrench or push a chisel or program and run a digital milling machine.
Paying for training, establishing vocational schools, helping the unemployed while they are in training will go a long way to changing the situation, but that's not all it will take. Manufacturers and companies of all kinds have to be willing to bring the jobs back from offshore and invest and commit to the U.S. again, not just the shareholder's next quarter profits.
The alternative is seeing a generation of permanently unemployed people on the dole for life. There are no free rides anywhere in our current situation- everybody will pay, in some way, sometime.
We are far from being another Bosnia. We are still the largest manufacturing nation on earth, but if we are going to keep that position, we have to change our ways of thinking and start planning for the long term, with mutual benefits for all, from the bottom to the top.
Blaming the unemployed is not only stupid, it serves no good purpose at all. Are we Americans or are we not? Do you care about your neighbor or not? Are we in this together or not?
EASY? You are F'n insane, my guess is as close to working in a factory is watching dirty jobs.
Office work hard? Yeah, you are insane.
Depends on the office work.
If you're a engineer or scientist that DESIGNS the things the grunts build, that decide the optimal mix of automation in the manufacture and assembly process, decide in the degree to which products are tested, and ensure compliance to regulations, meanwhile making sure everyone works to the same specs AND have to watch over the grunts on the line, yes, our jobs are harder.
Building and assembling stuff ain't just muscle power man. In this global economy it takes smarts to win, not brawn.
If you're a engineer or scientist that DESIGNS the things the grunts build, that decide the optimal mix of automation in the manufacture and assembly process, decide in the degree to which products are tested, and ensure compliance to regulations, meanwhile making sure everyone works to the same specs AND have to watch over the grunts on the line, yes, our jobs are harder.
Building and assembling stuff ain't just muscle power man. In this global economy it takes smarts to win, not brawn.
I guess you have never worked in a factory, there are many jobs that require at least a moderate level of intelligence.
Calling Factory workers Grunt workers is offensive.
You have no clue how modern factories run, it is obvious.
Pencil pushers tend to think like you, and your type is why things are so f'd up.
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