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I agree, I would never had done the bank bailouts or the stimulus packages, both hurt the country and made problems deeper IMO.
Most conservatives I read feel the same way.
You honestly think letting the Financial System collapse, would have been a good choice? We have, well had, an opportunity to restructure the Financials such that there would be no more 'too big to fail', but the GOP is trying to stop even the meager attempt to do that. So now, we are in danger of being in the same situation as 2008.
We are a freaking worthless country if people oppose protests that would benefit them. The ignorant conservative bias in our nation should be lobotomized Typical liberal, if you disagree with something, stop it. Ignorant because it is so fear-based You fear that conservatives are logic based. Liberal thinking is hopeful and experimental, forward-looking And always done using other people's money, not their own often to an extent that it bankrupts us. Conservative thinking is backward-focused, fear-based, and always counterproductiveUnfounded!. It doesn't accomplish anything Regarding your post?.
Yes, corporate greed and control are reasons why we have so many economic problems Companies are allowed profit, without it there would be no pay checks..
Yes, government is also a problem but it is fully owned by corporations No, they regulate beyond the distance they should causing companies to leave even our country at this point. Where do you think they get their marching orders from Companies get them from their boards who try and figure out the market for their products; Obama gets his from government unions who gave him a half-billion last election in exchange for large pay raises and huge retirements? Duh! Our wars are fought to protect business interests, not the citizens With the exception of Obama in Libya, American wars are due to American interests, and the only land we've ever kept was what we used to bury our dead overseas that were fighting for us!
Yes, the rich get away with everything they pay 55% in taxes in some states and when they die another 50% is confiscated. You are clueless! but you'll NEVER be one of them I know a few of them and they all started off broke, but they never thought and posted like you, so YOU will never be one of them, they assure you of that fact every day You are watching novellas. And they laugh at your admiration of them as they openly pee on you and say "Work hard for us, work hard! Too much drama queen stuff going around here"
They often work 80 hour plus weeks, often have lost severa lfortunes taking risks. They pay by far the most taxes and are often great job creators.
I would indeed admire the wealthy that employ people. Thank God for them, and rather than be an Obama and target them for success, maybe instead use them for inspiration.
I see that you are not very old. I remember in the early 50s when the Chinese Communists tried to do the printing of paper money like you want and the very funny cartoons of them going to the store with a wheel barrow of money to buy a loaf of bread. The Fed is pushing us to that point, right now, with their printing presses.
With a crashing real estate bubble you have two choices let the prices fall on their own or inflate the wage price structure to support the price of houses. Falling prices is deflation, deflation sucks. 20%+ unemployment comes with deflation. Full employment comes with or tends to come with true inflation. What we have is stagflation the worst of both worlds. We should multiply the minimum wage by the expansion in the worlds monetary base divided by the population growth. That is at the very least. That way the minimum wage keeps up with inflation.
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Oh man, I can just see those "outraged" BFA grads lining up for mfg jobs if they came back to the US.
You need a collage degree to do a manufacturing job? What has the world come too. A high School diploma should be enough to get a manufacturing job and with that a position in the middle class.
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Why don't they go where the mfg jobs are growing? Kia plant in GA, VW plant in TN, some other auto plant in MS.
Having invested more in themselves than a high school diploma they want more than what a high school diploma should be able to get them.
Yeah, no one is protesting "corporations." They are protesting corporate control of the government, specifically Wall St bankster firms. Your attempt at simplistic dismissal is petty and ultimately falls short. Nice try though.
You honestly think letting the Financial System collapse, would have been a good choice? We have, well had, an opportunity to restructure the Financials such that there would be no more 'too big to fail', but the GOP is trying to stop even the meager attempt to do that. So now, we are in danger of being in the same situation as 2008.
Problems I have with the first bail out (the financial one) was the do-it-now rush.
We later on found companies managed to give 150 billion of it to Europe through a company. I know for the most part it was paid back at this point, but again I now wonder why we are not 1 trillion less in debt. Where did the money paid back go? I would like an accounting of the money flow here.
well, in the last few days, it has been Eric Cantor, speaker Boehner et al that have referred to the protesters as a bunch of troublemakers. the dem leadership Rep Nancy Pelosi and one of the other high posts on the Dem side came out in favor of the ppl making their opinions known (even though they disagreed with the way it's being done).
I guess Pelosi changed her mind from when the Tea Party protested.
Those people were domestic terrorists.
People are defending free markets over large intrusive government.
Yeah if you think what happens on Wall St is the "free market" I have a bridge in Brooklyn you'd be interested in. These Wall St bankster/"free marketers" are always against "socialism" when we're bailing out someone in the 99%, but boy when the Wall St casino goes bust who do they come crawling to? I guess what passes for the "free market" these days is socialized losses where the American taxpayer foots the bill for irresponsible greedy fat cats who choose to gamble with other people's money.
Agreed. This is very clearly illustrated when Socialist icon Michael Moore defends The FED while simultaneoulsy touting that Captialism must be destroyed.
I'm not defending Wall Street because I like Wall Street or agree with big CEO salaries, I'm defending Wall Street because I like prosperity.
Prosperity without any moral obligation or social responsibility. Prosperity that is hampered by national boundaries. Prosperity that is controlled by the few and distributed to the few. Yeah, I get it.
Yeah, no one is protesting "corporations." They are protesting corporate control of the government, specifically Wall St bankster firms. Your attempt at simplistic dismissal is petty and ultimately falls short. Nice try though.
So if you have a balanced budget amendment, then politicians can't spend left and right, there would be a very restrictive budget and you would stop a lot of this mess.
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