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View Poll Results: Do you support the Wall St. protesters?
Yes 157 51.48%
No 148 48.52%
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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This is the generation who got trophies for losing.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:58 PM
 
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I made a lot of bad choices in my youth, and I will pay. But I'm not going to blame "society" or anyone else for my lot. Screw that.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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I'm in the 99% and these protestors do NOT represent me. I am not a useful idiot for the Marxists. These folks should be petitioning their elected representatives who are corrupted, bought and sold by those they protest. Corporations have a duty to their stockholders, not to the protestors. Elected representatives have a duty to the US Constitution. Bank and corporate bailouts were not/are not Constituitional.
No, but if a bunch of fascist, Right Wingers theocrats were out protesting cause celeb you'd be right there in spirit.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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Never.

The Tea Party are decent, law abiding citizens who want Constitutional fixes for America's problems.

The ows're are a bunch of socialists looking for a handout.
And in the process Teabaggers will turn us into a Christian Saudi Arabia...

Very Constitutional.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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This generation is less inclined to listen to their elders. They seem to prefer video games and texting over speaking with family, especially older relatives.
Oh stop it with the ridiculous "video games and texting" meme. It's awfully hypocritical for someone with over 10,000 posts on an internet forum to lecture to younger people like some old foogie about "video games and texting." These "kids" are out partaking in the great civic tradition of protesting and are incorporating the great evil of "texting" and other forms of electronic media into it.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:03 PM
 
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Too bad you didn't see what other generations went through. In the past not everyone expected to be given a college education and not very long ago, you didn't expect to graduate from college and instantly have a 6-figure job.

Not so long ago, college students would work their way through college, they didn't have cell phones, $600 game players, wild spring break vacations.

Kids today think they should never have to work a job like waiting tables but it used to be pretty common and many college students only got ordinary paying jobs.
I see what you're saying Malamute , but here on the West Coast (California) waiting tables, construction, janitorial, fast food, cleaning and many other entry level jobs of the past are flooded with Illegal Aliens and their middle aged relatives.

It was easier in the past for High School aged and College bound kids to find work and enter the job market.

This change was brought about by Reagan's Amnesty ( which was a failure) and the ever increasing policies brought about by Liberals since then.

Calif. Gov. Brown recentley signed the Dream (Nightmare) Act, so now American youngsters have to compete with older retirement age workers who can't afford to retire and Illegal Aliens, Anchor Babies and others in a bad economy.

Granted their is a large segment of Generation Y that is lazy and complacent, but that can be said about other generations to at that age.

It's time the US started taking care of it's own. Time to bring our troops home, Deport alll Illegal Aliens, end foreign aid and most of all vote out that IDIOT OBAMA.

3 years of failure is enough, a change is needed and the Democrats should look into running someone else that isn't all talk.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Oh stop it with the ridiculous "video games and texting" meme. It's awfully hypocritical for someone with over 10,000 posts on an internet forum to lecture to younger people like some old foogie about "video games and texting." These "kids" are out partaking in the great civic tradition of protesting and are incorporating the great evil of "texting" and other forms of electronic media into it.
And yet I have a job, a home of my own, and a car paid off.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:05 PM
 
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It could also be said that the baby boomers didn't stick their noses up at blue collar jobs, took responsibility for their own actions and didn't go through life thinking that life owed them something.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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I thought another part of the protest was about the feeling of getting scammed by our current systems:

Banks
College Loans/Expensive Paper Mills
Real Estate
School System
Health Care
Retirement
Lack of Jobs

etc.

Our current system that we're expected to conform into has actually backfired, and people are pissed. I've read warnings of a backlash since the 90s, and the protests are merely just the beginning.

We're expected to go to school... that's a given, but our current school system has such low standards that we're just passing people along without any real world skills. So we expect college to "enlighten" us, on top of the belief that we will earn more money than without it. There are commercials that actually claim this on right now.And most parents are either too busy, or don't care to teach their kids about the real world. The parents that try have kids that would rather watch reality shows and talk about pop culture rather than trying to balance a checkbook.

So there's college, in which at one time it was useful for getting a higher paying job that's now over saturated with graduates in numerous fields. Tuition goes up every year on top of new books, room and board, so we have to rely on loans to get us though. After graduation we're facing a terrible job market but grads have crippling debt and have to take lower paying jobs that will also hurt their chances at finally landing a good career in their field because of the wrong job experience and possible bad credit for loan defaulting.

Banks convinced people to take out large loans they can't pay back, in which the Housing market boomed when this was commonplace. Houses were worth far more than they really are anyway.

We're tired of hearing "Well it's your fault" and maybe it's true in some cases as people can be irresponsible with taking out loans. It don't hurt the banks or the paper mills much because they'll still get paid one way or another. Remember salesmen are there to convince you to buy something against your better judgement, banks, insurance companies, and colleges are no different. People that know better still get swindled because of these slick types that wear a suit.

Our current health care system is a ripoff, and yet it can't cover everything so you're paying the hospital on top of paying the insurance companies. There's too much insurance for everything, Life insurance, Car Insurance, Retirement, Accidents, Flood, Hurricane, Homeowners, we're paying way too much just to have "peace of mind". How do you expect even people of middle class to pay for all that and have a comfortable living? People that have families are hit hard with this.

Jobs? Want to create jobs Obama? How about making outsourcing and shipping manufacturing jobs overseas a bad idea by taxing and legislating the companies that practice these, the same idea you had when you went after the coal industry. How about making a bill that considers college education as early work experience so employers would quit being dickish about hiring. Oh wait that's right, a good chunk of those huge companies paid for your campaign didn't they? Guess you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you right?

Call the protesters what you want, but generalizing them as "lazy bums" is unreasonable.
God Bless this post and its poster. Spot on!

Generation Y and the Millennials are screwed thanks to those in power. And now we're pushing back. We're 80 million strong.

GOTP we're coming after you.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:11 PM
 
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We're the lost generaion. We are not fortunate like our parents. Our parents had jobs to get them by. Most of my friends say that their parents already owned homes when they were the same age. A lot of the people in generation Y are having a hard time. This generation is the one that got impacted the most from the result of globalization. We're the boomerang kids. We return home after graduation because there are not many opportunities for us to support ourselves. High paying jobs are bias towards those who are highly educated.


I find it disgusting that the baby boomers are ridiculing those protesting since they made things worse for our generation.
Your generation, which I am only a few years removed from myself have a vast number of advantages that previous generations did not:

-Technology that enables an incredibly low cost of entry into many different types of business that you can start.

-Technology that enables you to be able to chat with and find experts on any given number of topics to further educate yourself, or again, help to start a new business with.

-Unlimited free resources to help train and educate yourself on countless numbers of job skills and areas of expertise.

-Free education, literally: Khan Academy

-Vastly improved technology that allows you to work from anywhere on almost anything.

Unfortunately most of these things require one to also be self sufficient, ambitious, and driven...those are things you cant teach or learn for the most part.
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