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Old 10-26-2011, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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So, in other words.....women should be forced to perform as incubators to provide product for those who don't wish to adopt the children that are ALREADY available.

Can't find the make and model you prefer.....so let's enforce slave labor....literally. How disgusting.

Forced?

Are they snatched off the streets and taken to secret underground fertility clinics where they are inseminated against their will and forced to produce babies?

Every woman I have ever had sex with volunteered to remove her panties and understood that copulating causes conception.

Is this not the norm?

Is it your opinion that females are a special group of people who are too stupid to understand the risks associated with vaginal copulation?

Do you believe the responsibility of owning a vagina is beyond what females are capable of handling and we need to have special laws to protect women from their own irresponsibility?
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Reason #2536 to ALWAYS VOTE DEMOCRATIC if you are intersted in protecting your rights
Does that include my right to bear arms?
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:46 AM
 
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Does that include my right to bear arms?
Better hide your gun in your vagina, if you have a vagina.

That's the last frontier of privacy!
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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What medical procedure besides abortion lets the patient decide how much information they should have?
All of them. Doctors don't force patients to look at pictures of surgeries, tumors, etc.

They tell you that you need heart surgery, for instance......they don't pull out pictures and films of a heart surgery and force you to watch it before you have the surgery.

You are FREE to ask to see those things if you wish.....you are not REQUIRED BY THE GOVERMENT to do so......or NO SURGERY FOR YOU!

You are VERBALLY told what the operation entails and the risks involved.....they DO NOT FORCE you to look at pictures.
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:52 AM
 
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All of them. Doctors don't force patients to look at pictures of surgeries, tumors, etc.

They tell you that you need heart surgery, for instance......they don't pull out pictures and films of a heart surgery and force you to watch it before you have the surgery.

You are FREE to ask to see those things if you wish.....you are not REQUIRED BY THE GOVERMENT to do so......or NO SURGERY FOR YOU!

You are VERBALLY told what the operation entails and the risks involved.....they DO NOT FORCE you to look at pictures.
Well, yes they do, because if they screw up, you can sue them and claim you did not know what you were getting into.

They'll show you your kidney stones or your gallbladder or the spots on your lungs.

Give women more credit with making choices.

If you really do want them to make choices.

I think anyone who says 1.2M infants won't be missed really doesn't want them to make choices.
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:54 AM
 
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No! Because forcing them to look at a picture or hear the heartbeat is an attempt to make an already difficult situation even more so. Just another right wing, christian attempt at controlling a woman's body.

Already difficult?

That's such a puzzling statement.

What harm could come from informing a woman about the surgical procedure she is about to undergo?
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Forced?


Every woman I have ever had sex... understood that copulating causes conception.
Exactly. Copulation could wind up in conception is a fact.
Discovering she's pregnant, finding herself with a difficult decision and then being made to look at an ultrasound of the fetus? That's playing on emotion.

The woman knows what's going on inside her without an ultrasound.
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:57 AM
 
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Is the commitment to have an abortion so fragile and frought with self doubt that you can't get more information?

Doesn't sound like choice to me.
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:58 AM
 
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What does Margaret Sanger have to do with a woman of today deciding whether to abort or not?

Please tell us.
Margaret Sanger founded Planned Parenthood, which was, and still is, dedicated to eugenics.

In other words, the 1.2M babies you tell us the world won't miss.

Comprendo?
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:59 AM
 
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Already difficult?

That's such a puzzling statement.

What harm could come from informing a woman about the surgical procedure she is about to undergo?
Before ultrasounds, doctors were able to inform a woman of the surgical procedure she was about to undergo. A picture of a fetus isn't the procedure, rather the cause for the procedure.
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