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No, they don't. You're not going to lower prices. You're just going to force companies to adjust their offerings. The current lineup is A, B and C offered separately for $X dollars each. Force them to offer A, B, and C as a bundle, and you'll be paying $X * 3 dollars.
And if they disallow the companies to charge those extra fees, they're just going to lump those fees into the base cost for their plan.
You're missing the point, having tiers where some content providers get preferential treatment over other content providers is just a road we shouldn't go down. That would encourage large companies to monopolize the content. As of right now the internet is operating under NN rules, it always has. Why change that now?
Again the simple solution is for them to charge for the bandwidth you use, just like you pay the water company a per gallon fee you'd do the same with the ISP.
You're missing the point, having tiers where some content providers get preferential treatment over other content providers is just a road we souldn;t go down. As of right now the internet is operating under NN rules, it always has. Why change that now?
Again the simple solution is for them to charge for the bandwidth you use, just like you pay the water company a per gallon fee you'd do the same with the ISP.
Or with the right amount of competition, we simply choose the company that operates under the model we prefer.
If a company promotes certain content over other content, they are doing this for a reason, because it is profitable to do so. Again assuming there is competition this will allow them to lower prices for consumers.
Question. Do you know how Google makes money?
Edit - I add that this is absolutely not the way the internet works. This is just the way ISPs work, and ISPs are a small part of the equation.
You're missing the point, having tiers where some content providers get preferential treatment over other content providers is just a road we shouldn't go down. That would encourage large companies to monopolize the content. As of right now the internet is operating under NN rules, it always has. Why change that now?
Again the simple solution is for them to charge for the bandwidth you use, just like you pay the water company a per gallon fee you'd do the same with the ISP.
Who says we're going down that road except for the government ?
They've got a solution to a problem we don't have today.
Let me put it to you another way Sam, in the past large media corporations have been been able to dominate largely because of the cost of distribution. It cost a lot to manufacturer, ship and sell a record, newspaper or book. That's all changed with the internet and anyone can distribute their own materiel for a fairly reasonable cost, if you don't have NN rules the internet will return to this old model because it will get very expensive for the small content provider to deliver high bandwidth material to the end user. If I want to try and compete with CNN I can attempt it, the only thing that dictates how fast my content gets delivered to the end user is what I'm paying for on my end. It's not going to be throttled by the ISP because they are giving CNN or even their own content preferential treatment.
Who says we're going down that road except for the government ?
They've got a solution to a problem we don't have today.
They have an unrealistic solution to something we've had since the beginning of time.
Name me one form of media distribution that does not promote certain content over other content. Every time you read a newspaper, do you not see ads promoting certain content over other content? Every time you watch TV, do you not see ads promoting certain content over other content?
Why do you think newspapers are so cheap? How much would TV cost if they weren't allowed to display ads?
Hell, every time you go on the internet, do you not see ads promoting certain content over other content? The only issue here is whether ISPs should be able to participate.
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Let me put it to you another way Sam, in the past large media corporations have been been able to dominate largely because of the cost of distribution. It cost a lot to manufacturer, ship and sell a record, newspaper or book. That's all changed with the internet and anyone can distribute their own materiel for a fairly reasonable cost, if you don't have NN rules the internet will return to this old model because it will get very expensive for the small content provider to deliver high bandwidth material to the end user. If I want to try and compete with CNN I can attempt it, the only thing that dictates how fast my content gets delivered to the end user is what I'm paying for on my end. It's not going to be throttled by the ISP because they are giving CNN or even their own content preferential treatment.
The internet and every other form of media distribution already operates under this model. CNN already gets preferential treatment. Do you use a search engine? The profit model that search engines operate under fly in the face of net neutrality.
I can only imagine the massive infrastructure costs that Google pays. They have their own DCs, hell even their own custom branded cool looking yellow servers. They are able to spend all of this money on infrastructure and still provide a low cost (well actually free) search engine service. How? By promoting certain content over other content. Take that away, and you'll be paying Google for every search you perform.
The ISP's are saying it by their actions, there is no other reason to revoke NN rules revoked other than to go down that road.
We've been down that road since advertising was invented.
Again look at Google. The only reason you are able to perform free web searches that use advanced algorithms that cost millions of dollars to develop and billions in infrastructure costs is because Google makes up that cost by promoting certain content over other content.
This has benefited the user dramatically. Operating under this model, Google has managed to provide the best service in the industry of search engines, especially when it comes to the "organic" or non-paid search results.
And it's all absolutely free. This same content easily applies to ISPs. The only difference is that ISP infrastructure per user costs more than Google infrastructure per user. However with the advancement of technology there is no doubt in my mind that eventually internet service will be 100% free and funded by advertising. Just like Google.
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