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Old 11-23-2011, 06:23 AM
 
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Personaly I think they both suck. Voted for king george in 2000 and regretted within 1 yr . Carryed a barf bag with me to vote for Kerry in 04. Then another one for McCant in08.
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:39 AM
 
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You got it, dude. Vera Baker! she worked tirelessly on one of his previous-before-2008 campaigns....it was huge rumor, here...found video about it.




Like I said, this rumor made national, hourly radio news when the story first broke.
Did a little googling on my own re this alleged "affair." This sums up what I found
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Also, when this rumor came up during the campaign, mainstream news organizations did investigate, and found that there was no evidence to support the charge. (I did my own noodling around, interviewing even disaffected Obama staffers from the time period and found nothing.) Mainstream Journalist Mentions Vera Baker! - Marc Ambinder - Politics - The Atlantic
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Here's what I don't understand from the right-wing crowd...

You loved Bush:
-Family values/religious issues
-Worked in the private sector, even though most of it was a setup from his rich daddy and he failed miserably in his endeavors
-Average normal guy, not part of 'Washington elite'
-Showed human qualities/mistakes
-Was pro-corporate/rich
-Stuck it out with his policies no matter how miserably they were failing
-Stood by his 'advisors' no matter how bad they sucked

You hate Obama:
-Not a single story, rumor, etc. that he has ever been anything but a very loyal, faitful husband and father who has done everything right
-Didn't work in the private sector but came from nothing and has achieved A LOT...a lot more than the platinum spoon fed Bush children
-Average guy, not part of the 'Washington Elite'
-Makes many mistakes like a normal person would
-Has continued on the pro corporate/rich policies of the Bush admin
-Has shown a willingness to bend on positions in order to get things passed for the 'better of the country'
-Has stood by his 'advisors' who apparently kinda suck

wrong


disliked bush, because he was a globalist, and liberal spender

hate obama, because bush ojn steriods

get all liberals/fascists voted out
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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You hate Obama:
-Not a single story, rumor, etc. that he has ever been anything but a very loyal, faitful husband and father who has done everything right
not A single story???


what about larry sinclair, obama's gay cocaine friend with benefits
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Old 11-23-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Obama is headed in a direction the country does not want to go.

Torture is listening to Obama, the great orator and dismal communicator, use nebulous and intentionally interpretive language and avoid details like the plague. He says nothing, speaks to emotions and reverses positions without care of explaining his transition. His distortion of opponents is dispicable and not worthy of the office of president.

We need to hear detailed argument not a high level class warfare strategy and meaningless emotional patter. To deprive us of argument and details implies we are undeucated children in need of parental care. This was reinforced by pelosi when she uttered, 'we have to pass it to see what's in it'.

If Obama was just a bumbling fool who demonstrated clear accomplishments that didn't need creative statistics to validate success, he could be mildly tolerated.

He asked us to judge him by who he surrounds himself with, well we did that and see him for the radical socialist tendencies he embraces.

The fact that the media has turned propaganda machine for Obama's regime is a huge red flag all is not well.

Obama is a Judas goat who leads us to destruction. The scraps he tosses from his table are nothing more than bribes to sway the ignorant who hold the right to vote.

I could care less if the guy was androgenous or turned colors like a rotating rainbow, he is an empty headed front man for the larger socialist movement that has laid dormant until this perfect political storm.

Bush was of another era of politics and in no way comparable in any respect to Obama except they are both human males. It is time Obama stopped running against Bush. Bush is irrelevant to discussion of Obama.
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Old 11-23-2011, 07:15 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GAisGreat View Post
Here's what I don't understand from the right-wing crowd...

You loved Bush:
-Family values/religious issues
-Worked in the private sector, even though most of it was a setup from his rich daddy and he failed miserably in his endeavors
-Average normal guy, not part of 'Washington elite'
-Showed human qualities/mistakes
-Was pro-corporate/rich
-Stuck it out with his policies no matter how miserably they were failing
-Stood by his 'advisors' no matter how bad they sucked

You hate Obama:
-Not a single story, rumor, etc. that he has ever been anything but a very loyal, faitful husband and father who has done everything right
-Didn't work in the private sector but came from nothing and has achieved A LOT...a lot more than the platinum spoon fed Bush children
-Average guy, not part of the 'Washington Elite'
-Makes many mistakes like a normal person would
-Has continued on the pro corporate/rich policies of the Bush admin
-Has shown a willingness to bend on positions in order to get things passed for the 'better of the country'
-Has stood by his 'advisors' who apparently kinda suck
I did not vote for Bush or Obama.

I thought Bush a rather lackluster President, although I did and will continue to defend him against spurious and outright insane accusations.

I think that Obama is also a lackluster President although I have been known to defend him against spurious and outright insane accusations.

That is called being fair and honest.

So I guess that blows your pathetic premise right out of the water.
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Old 11-23-2011, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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They sound quite similar based on your own description, so I have to ask, why do so many of you hate Bush but love Obama?
This, in addition to the question in the OP is what everyone should ask themselves. At that point, you will realize that Americans no longer have accurate representation. And Presidents are merely puppets of a higher power.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:07 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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This, in addition to the question in the OP is what everyone should ask themselves. At that point, you will realize that Americans no longer have accurate representation. And Presidents are merely puppets of a higher power.

Jesse Ventura once said all politicians seem to hate each other in front of the cameras but in reality they are all having lunch together behind the curtains.

The goals of politicians and the ones they work for is to divide this country...and divided we WILL fail.. Miserably.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Jesse Ventura once said all politicians seem to hate each other in front of the cameras but in reality they are all having lunch together behind the curtains.

The goals of politicians and the ones they work for is to divide this country...and divided we WILL fail.. Miserably.
Exactly! The plan has always been to distract and divide. It is working tremendously.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Finally a few voices of reason. The proletariat laughs at us arguing amongst ourselves. Any President who goes against those who truly run this country will end up like JFK.
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