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Old 01-03-2012, 01:05 PM
 
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I do not rememer seeing any teen-girl couples kissing in school when I was young, but today it is "normal". Kids can be influenced into all kinds of things.
Yea, but how many 9 year old's had cell phones when you were a kid.

Man, these kids are much different nowadays. They're just loaded with so much more information. I don't think it's a conspiracy, it's just so much out there, and they're good at capturing it all between their phones, tv's, ipod, ipads, computers, skype, etc...
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Good question WJ. They want to work on the children while their minds can still be influenced. Homo/bi sexuality is already "hip" among many young girls, because it is being promoted all aroud them.
Why worry? From the result of being exposed to positive info about homosexuality, did you damn near become a homosexual, yourself?
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Ridiculous ! Homosexual children are not swayed by listening to sex in schools. They are born that way. Heterosexuals, will not be phased by this. You either are or you aren't. At what point did you say...I think I'll be straight ? You never did. Gay people never wake up one day and say I'll be gay nor were they recruited. Your rant is all backwards, ignorant, babel.
Well, apparently it is an "in" thing now with Lady Gaga etc selling bi-sexuality and all of a sudden you see girls french-kissing in the school yard. I suppose many of them grow out of it, but some stay that way as guys will reject them after they see the lesbian behaviour.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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You must be white! I think someone who had to overcome major obstacles in their life because of their color is an accomplishment. You obviously don't experience much obstacle yourself to understand.
See you wish to separate people by color or orientation Rather than celebrate their accomplishment.
when one thinks of Rosa Parks do you wish to celebrate her spirit to stand up for human rights or reduce it to she was black? I believe we should celebrate what she did as a triumph of human spirit for all people not celebrate what she was black.
when we all can see she stood up for the human spirit then much of this problem goes away
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I would just as soon study a native American for his contributions to the country not because he is native American
I would juts a soon study the accomplishments of black Americans than do so because they are blacks
I would just a soon study the accomplishments of a person rather than because he is gay
I do not need to celebrate the accomplishments of Americans because they are black or gay or a three breasted circus freak. We should study the accomplishments because they were Americans. This tendency to study someone based on a classification only separates us further rather then celebrating an accomplishment we are celebrating for the wrong reasons.
Until we can stop separating people no one will gain true respect to be what they want to be
But you can't hide or run from the fact that behind much of the rise and fall of Harvey Milk had to do with him being gay, rather than straight. How much further would he have risen in California and perhaps national politics had he lived on?
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:13 PM
 
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I suppose many of them grow out of it, but some stay that way as guys will reject them after they see the lesbian behaviour.
LOL

When did you go to high school? 1955?

Non-lesbian girls exhibiting public same sex kissing are doing for the attention of BOYS.

I assure you, most young men will not "reject" women who kiss other women! One of the top fantasies of straight men is two women at the same time, and straight pornography will almost always include a "lesbian" scene.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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Oh lovely. So this is what our children will be learning about.

Wonder if they will teach them that CDC findings are that Gay Men account for 61% of HIV cases while they represent only 2% of the population.
Or that one of the heralded founders of the Gay Movement, Harry Hay was also a strong supporter of North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA.)

Nah. They probably won't teach them that because the new law also forbids the schools from teaching anything "adverse" about the LGBT.


HIV in the United States | Factsheets | Resources by Format | CDC HIV/AIDS

"Gay, Bisexual, and Other Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM)1of all races and ethnicities remain the population most severely affected by HIV."

"CDC estimates that MSM account for just 2% of the US population, but accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections in 2009. MSM accounted for 49% of people living with HIV infection in 2008 (the most recent year prevalence data are available)."


The American Spectator : When Nancy Met Harry

"Harry Hay was a fierce advocate of man/boy love... the North American Man/Boy Love Association was only too delighted to put up a collection of Harry's views on the need for young boys to have older men as sexual partners. Here's just a sample taken from a talk at a New York University forum sponsored by a campus gay group in 1983."
"Said Harry: "Because if the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what thirteen-, fourteen-, and fifteen-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world."
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I would just as soon study a native American for his contributions to the country not because he is native American
I would juts a soon study the accomplishments of black Americans than do so because they are blacks
I would just a soon study the accomplishments of a person rather than because he is gay
I do not need to celebrate the accomplishments of Americans because they are black or gay or a three breasted circus freak. We should study the accomplishments because they were Americans. This tendency to study someone based on a classification only separates us further rather then celebrating an accomplishment we are celebrating for the wrong reasons.
Until we can stop separating people no one will gain true respect to be what they want to be
true, true

In history class there was no need to mention George Washington's sexual preferences. It was enough to teach what he did for the country, not what he did in his bedroom.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Oh lovely. So this is what our children will be learning about.

Wonder if they will teach them that CDC findings are that Gay Men account for 61% of HIV cases while they represent only 2% of the population.
Or that one of the heralded founders of the Gay Movement, Harry Hay was also a strong supporter of North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA.)

Nah. They probably won't teach them that because the new law also forbids the schools from teaching anything "adverse" about the LGBT.


HIV in the United States | Factsheets | Resources by Format | CDC HIV/AIDS

"Gay, Bisexual, and Other Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM)1of all races and ethnicities remain the population most severely affected by HIV."

"CDC estimates that MSM account for just 2% of the US population, but accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections in 2009. MSM accounted for 49% of people living with HIV infection in 2008 (the most recent year prevalence data are available)."

You're only bringing up items appropriate for sex ed class, not gay history class.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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Fair, Accurate, Inclusive, and Respectful Education Act, also known as the FAIR Education Act (Senate Bill 48) and informally described by media outlets as the LGBT History Bill.

Or let's just call it the "Gay Bill".

It forces school teachers to promote homosexuality in California schools, and even worse, as it does not have an "Opt Out" clause, it forces the kids to listen to it.

I think a line has been crossed and something needs to be done before this spreads to the rest of the country. Most parents consider gay-sex as immoral, unnatural or at the very least abnormal, and in Christian circles it is considered sinful, and the Bible is on their side strongly condemning homosexuality.

Believe it or not, but I think this is a win for conservatives as it stands as an example where liberalism has been allowed to go too far and is not infringing the freedoms of regular people. Many will see this and depart from liberalism.
There is no promotion of homosexuality taking place. Talking about it and promoting it are two different things. Saying it's OK is not promotion either. As a middle aged gay person, I've never once ever encountered anyone who promoted it. Many people are happy about theirs, but that's not promotion. This act is well-intentioned and I think the no opt-out policy is also good. It will force discussion outside the classroom and perhaps educate some parents. The only reason to oppose it is fear-based bigotry. Time for extremists to grow up. What they fear is simply not true. What they promote, and here the word promote is really applicable, is the problem.
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