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Old 12-06-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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Newt 2012 Responds to Pentagon Secretary Panetta on Israel | Newt Gingrich 2012 (http://www.newt.org/news/newt-2012-responds-pentagon-secretary-panetta-israel - broken link)

Quote: ''the policy of the White House is actively and materially harming Israel''

UNDERMINING ISRAELI SECURITY

Secretary Panetta argues that cooperation between Israel and the United States is now at “unprecedented levels.” Indeed, the Obama administration has significantly upgraded the relationship on a number of fronts, including missile defense, counterterrorism coordination and military supply. At the same time, however, its political priorities vis-Ă -vis Israel have put the Jewish state in greater danger. To wit:
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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Was "salient" the word you were actually reaching for?
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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Was "salient" the word you were actually reaching for?

No! I think I got it right!!

Adj.1. >sapient - acutely insightful and wise; "much too perspicacious to be taken in by such a spurious argument"; "observant and thoughtful, he was given to asking sagacious questions"; "a source of valuable insights and sapient advice to educators" perspicacious, sagacious
wise - having or prompted by wisdom or discernment; "a wise leader"; "a wise and perceptive comment"
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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Israel does this to itself with its unlawful actions in Palestinian territories. We should not be supporting this.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:09 PM
 
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Overall, it's unseemly for American politicians or presidential candidates to spend so much time worrying about one particular foreign nation. It brings to mind George Washington's caution against "foreign entanglements." Newt and others would do well to re-read those speeches, along with some of the writings of Thomas Jefferson and also John Quincy Adams.
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Old 12-06-2011, 04:48 PM
 
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Overall, it's unseemly for American politicians or presidential candidates to spend so much time worrying about one particular foreign nation. It brings to mind George Washington's caution against "foreign entanglements." Newt and others would do well to re-read those speeches, along with some of the writings of Thomas Jefferson and also John Quincy Adams.
Not true regarding our deserved interest in Israel.
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:40 PM
 
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Not true regarding our deserved interest in Israel.
If our relations with Israel are benefiting us then we should preserve them.

If our relations with Israel are hurting our interests then it is time to kick them to the side and let them be a burden on China instead.

Unfortunately, Israel today is more of a hindrance to the USA than a help to the USA.
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:49 PM
 
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How are we supposed to do that when Jewish lobbyist groups have a literal stranglehold over our government to the point our President and Congress are scared to say anything negative about them?

What Americans don't realize, or most don't, is the incredible influence Jewish groups have over all facets of our society. You will never see a mainstream Presidential candidate speak out against Israel because the Jewish groups would destroy their career and chances of being elected.
I think you mean Zionist not Jewish. Not all Jews are pro-Zionist. Many American Jews are anti-Zionist or ambivalent about Israel.

It would be great if the American Council for Judaism had great influence over all facets of our society.

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Old 12-06-2011, 06:15 PM
 
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If our relations with Israel are benefiting us then we should preserve them.

If our relations with Israel are hurting our interests then it is time to kick them to the side and let them be a burden on China instead.

Unfortunately, Israel today is more of a hindrance to the USA than a help to the USA.
Israel is God's nation (country) and our ally and our friend! And, you are WRONG! They're not a hindrance.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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Israel is God's nation (country) and our ally and our friend! And, you are WRONG! They're not a hindrance.
Israel in the past was our ally and friend. It would be hard to say they are now.
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