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Interesting thread. Hey, did you know 20,000 people put down $99 to pre-order one of these. Hey, did you know 20,000 x 250K ='s 5 Billion. @50K it works out to 1 billion in subsidies. Hey, did you know they said the sudsidies would cost ~ 3 billion spread out over 20 years. So 250K per car isn't for every car. Of course, that doesn't look as bad, so lets not mention the numbers unless we say it's up to 250K per car. It doesn't add up, but it looks good on paper.
Every Volt made has sold. Obviously, these people who average 170K are literally being forced to buy these cars. I didn't say that. Some Republican said it. "force citizens to purchase something they may not want" …..... the average Volt owner makes $170,000 per year.
Note, that's not the average Volt owner's family. That's the AVERAGE VOLT OWNER. And you also note, the 100 million dollars for keeping jobs, right? I see people on this board every day say that our government should do something to make jobs. There is is. It costs money. Let's get furious about it. Because, hey, no jobs is government's fault and giving money to make jobs is government's fault.
On day, they're gonna outlaw gasoline, people. Know why? There won't be any and it will all be used for the military. Unless we find something else to power the war machine. It's already happening, by the way. Most people just don't realize it. They won't - until they need a ration card for gasoline. Goodbye to airlines, too, chum. And big ships that run on petrol. It'll be nuclear, or nothing.
What I think is funny is how so many on the left on here cry and whine about jobs going oversees yet at the same time praise the volt.
"From a Chevy Volt window sticker:
U.S./Canadian parts content: 40%
Major source of foreign parts content: Korea 20% (the batteries)
Engine: Austria
Transmission (Electric Drive Unit): Japan
What I think is funny is how so many on the left on here cry and whine about jobs going oversees yet at the same time praise the volt.
"From a Chevy Volt window sticker:
U.S./Canadian parts content: 40%
Major source of foreign parts content: Korea 20% (the batteries)
Engine: Austria
Transmission (Electric Drive Unit): Japan
One of my all-time favorites was the one where Honda pointed out that some of their cars had been found by the EPA to put out certain, very low levels of pollutants. In the next breath they pointed out that the average level of pollution in some urban areas (L.A. basin, Denver etc.) had higher levels of those pollutants than that, in their air on a regular basis.
The commercial concluded with: "Honda. Cleans the air as you drive!"
I think the commercial ran for a few weeks, then was replaced.
This is a really silly claim... gvsteve explained the statistical error earlier, but its even worse than that. We aren't merely subsidizing Volts. Thats silly. We are subsidizing the technology, which is a lot different. The actual 'cost' can't be calculated in general, but will be a mechanism for growth in our industry and technology. You might be thinking 'er, no, its tax breaks and grants related to the Volt'- that's not the point. The gov't is making it profitable to not only sell a car like the Volt (which is great) but to develop the technology behind it and spur future, better designs. Studies were done that showed automobile companies couldn't make electric cars profitably, but we obviously need to move in that direction. Thus, government subsidies.
They ran an article in the local paper about the bankruptcy of the Th!nk electric car. $ 45,000 for a tiny car that was only viable as long as the government funded it. Now its finished and hundreds are out of work in Indiana.
Of course Biden was taken in by them and praised them and did photo ops for them.
Since money is fungible, it's likely far more than $250,000 per vehicle. Money in one hand frees up resources in the other hand. It's hard to track fugibility, and that's the beauty of it all to Democrats and other Crony Capitalists.
Associating Democrats with Crony Capitalists is a insult as well as a delusion.
FWIW - all major changes in transportation have required massive government support before they were sucessful. Except for walking maybe?
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