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That's gun control. I assume you're all for it, right?
Umm...I said .50 cal. machine-gun. You do know the difference, don't you?
Really? You can freely own a fully-functional tank or mortar in NH, without any restrictions at all? I'd really like to see THAT law!
Yeah, that's right. The Court ruled that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right, but it also ruled (I think correctly) that right is not absolute and that government entities have the perfect Constitutional right to control your guns within it's jurisdiction however it wanted. Just as with the right of free speech, there are appropriate limits which government can dictated and enforce.
Quote:"That's gun control. I assume you're all for it, right?"
I am not thrilled about the $200 transfer tax, but relative to what the guns and ammo cost, it is utterly irrelevant. I can blow through $200 of ammo in less than 10 seconds.
Quote:"Umm...I said .50 cal. machine-gun. You do know the difference, don't you?"
Sure do. I personally own a Ma Deuce. I see you had used an M-60. I have one of those too. I like the M-60 because it is a lot cheaper to shoot. I also keep a .50BMG rifle for 1000 yard competitions.
Quote:"Really? You can freely own a fully-functional tank or mortar in NH, without any restrictions at all? I'd really like to see THAT law!"
Umm, there is no law that says you can't have one. By 'freely', that means that you have to go through the federal paperwork process, and have your local police chief sign off on it. My local chief said "I don't care what you buy" . A friend of mine owns a very large class-III shop up here... He has literally dozens of mortars, silencers, grenade launchers, everything for sale (legally). (The only down side for the mortars is that you have to pay the transfer tax for each live shell. Gets rather expensive. The practice rounds don't require that). Guys at my local range shoot them off every now and then.
In terms of 'restrictions', of course there are laws about discharging in certain places (like a neighborhood, geez). And tanks can't pass inspection for being on the street. I can give you web sites of quite a few of them for sale (legally, and NOT demilled).
In all of these cases, bring a big checkbook.
Quote:"Yeah, that's right. The Court ruled that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right, but it also ruled (I think correctly) that right is not absolute and that government entities have the perfect Constitutional right to control your guns within it's jurisdiction however it wanted. Just as with the right of free speech, there are appropriate limits which government can dictated and enforce."
I see, so the Bill of Rights (actually all of the Amendments) are just 'guidelines for suggested behaviors' So we might as well now consider Amendments 1, 2 and 4 as essentially dead. I guess 'free speech' is entirely acceptable, except when some arbitrary government entity decides what is not allowed to be 'free'. (And yes, I do agree about the 'yelling fire in a theater' issue).
There are more firearms in this country than there are people. Criminals will get guns whether they are legal or not. Law-abiding citizens should be allowed to possess firearms, with none of this silly 'classification'.
Quote:"No, you do not have a Ma Deuce. You don't even have a machine-gun."
Umm.... I most certainly do. 0.50BMG (Browning Machine Gun) is the ammo I use. Geez, and you were in the military.
I have the Barrett rifle in .50 (that ran about $8000)
My Ma Deuce (and YES it is a fully automatic, ran me about $30,000)
I also have an M-60 (7.62, obviously from Rock Island Armory), and an MP5K-PDW (9mm from H&K). All full auto.
I think I have been fingerprinted so many times to get this stuff, my fingers are permanently stained black.
Want to come and fire them? (I can send you thousands of metal links if you want them, but I am keeping the spent brass).
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I quote: "THe problemI have with people like you is that you jump straight into the the FULL AUTOMATIC machine guns, and mortors and tanks and all this other BS just to advance your agenda...period."
What is my agenda? .
To make gun laws more restricitve on law abiding citzens...is that straight forward enuogh for you?
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Originally Posted by stillkit
You weren't talking about the average citizen. You questioned whether I knew the difference. Me, personally:
"However, there is a difference between an automatic and a fully automatic, I hope you know and understand the difference."
Well...I do know the difference..
O.K. good, you do know the difference, but the rest of my paragraph, was directed at everyone else.
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Originally Posted by stillkit
The rest of your post was just rehashing what you said before.
Quote:"No, you do not have a Ma Deuce. You don't even have a machine-gun."
Umm.... I most certainly do. 0.50BMG (Browning Machine Gun) is the ammo I use. Geez, and you were in the military.
I have the Barrett rifle in .50 (that ran about $8000)
My Ma Deuce (and YES it is a fully automatic, ran me about $30,000)
I also have an M-60 (7.62, obviously from Rock Island Armory), and an MP5K-PDW (9mm from H&K). All full auto.
I think I have been fingerprinted so many times to get this stuff, my fingers are permanently stained black.
Want to come and fire them? (I can send you thousands of metal links if you want them, but I am keeping the spent brass).
Enviable collection! Must be nice to have that kind of money for toys! I would love to have a mint 1921 Thompson, but I'll never hit the lottery.
Quote:"No, you do not have a Ma Deuce. You don't even have a machine-gun."
Umm.... I most certainly do. 0.50BMG (Browning Machine Gun) is the ammo I use. Geez, and you were in the military.
I have the Barrett rifle in .50 (that ran about $8000)
My Ma Deuce (and YES it is a fully automatic, ran me about $30,000)
I also have an M-60 (7.62, obviously from Rock Island Armory), and an MP5K-PDW (9mm from H&K). All full auto.
I think I have been fingerprinted so many times to get this stuff, my fingers are permanently stained black.
Want to come and fire them? (I can send you thousands of metal links if you want them, but I am keeping the spent brass).
Well, it seems I stand corrected. I've never heard an M-2 called a .50BMG. I guess that's an afficianado term I'm not familiar with. In the Army, it was just a "fifty."
Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll pass on shooting those things again. Once you've sighted down the barrel at a human being, it sorta loses it's fascination.
Hallelujah! thanks for bringing some good news for a change.
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. A friend of mine owns a very large class-III shop up here... He has literally dozens of mortars, silencers, grenade launchers, everything for sale (legally). (The only down side for the mortars is that you have to pay the transfer tax for each live shell. Gets rather expensive. The practice rounds don't require that). Guys at my local range shoot them off every now and then.
So we might as well now consider Amendments 1, 2 and 4 as essentially dead. I guess 'free speech' is entirely acceptable, except when some arbitrary government entity decides what is not allowed to be 'free'. (And yes, I do agree about the 'yelling fire in a theater' issue).
They are soooo classic.
